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DenisM 3 hours ago

How do employers perceive such diploma? I would try to find out before spending time or money. Did you?

HoldOnAMinute 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I always saw motivated people taking the "road less travelled" as a HUGE green flag.

colechristensen 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a stark difference between self motivated curious people and certification collectors even though on the surface they can look very similar.

alpinisme 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but writing detailed blog posts about the experience is usually a signal pointing toward the former group

aleph_minus_one an hour ago | parent [-]

> Yeah but writing detailed blog posts about the experience is usually a signal pointing toward the former group

Writing detailed blog posts about the experience is rather usually a signal that the person is an annoying self-promoter. :-(

galleywest200 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A bachelors degree is way different than a program certificate.

doezi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So… obligatory not in HR and also not a manager. But I’ve helped hire a couple engineers over the last 5ish years. Seems that HR at my companies filter for college degrees, and basically require 2 - 4 more years of experience (sans degree) or pedigree at their last couple companies. Maybe this depends more on the size of the company, but, for <1000 at each of them, HR is strapped for time and shortcuts the interview process with filters like this. I work with a great data engineer who never finished college and is fully self taught, and we’re currently navigating a recent "degree’d" data scientist hire who appears to have lied on their resume and used AI in the interview. Note, they lied about experience and title, not the degree or the companies. So not something a background check would catch.

Kinda sucks that the first barrier to interviewing at most companies is HR, and they generally are the least qualified or motivated to properly assess candidates. I don’t fully blame them, as there are just too many resumes and interviews to go through for the limited time we have in a work day, but great candidates can come from any background and demographic. Edit: Sample size of 1 here, so take with an appropriately sized (whale?, school bus?) grain of salt.

AlexB138 a minute ago | parent | next [-]

I've hired probably 200+ people in my career and I totally share your opinion. It's just an unfortunate reality of how things currently work.

dominotw 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lying seems to be the only way to get a job these days

scrame 2 hours ago | parent [-]

True, because lying is the currency that HR and Recruiting traffics in.

alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've hired non-trad candidates. We'd treat them as any other hiring candidate.

OP would just put "BSc Computer Science from Goldsmiths, University of London" on his resume and LinkedIn.