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feoren 5 hours ago

You're not in favor of adding regulation, except when it comes to issues you understand and care about. All the oversight and regulation about everything you don't care and/or know about is big bad government overreach. Every government agency is a useless waste of your tax dollars, except the ones you rely on and the ones where you have friends that work there. Do I have that right?

alecsm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I understand his comment as being against dumb regulation that only ads unnecessary bureaucracy or stops/limits progress. But he would support a regulation for this because it's a violation against the property of the buyer.

datsci_est_2015 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> being against dumb regulation that only ads unnecessary bureaucracy or stops/limits progress

Does such strawman regulation even exist? Some regulation is intentionally designed to limit “progress”, where “progress” happens to have negative externalities.

It’s kind of a self-legitimizing opinion. Of course anyone would be against unnecessary regulations. I think the real world is not arguing about whether a regulation is necessary, but rather if the economic burden it creates is worth the positive impact it has on society, which is highly contentious, highly subjective debate.

braiamp a minute ago | parent | next [-]

Only the regulation that doesn't evolve with the time or written so that it stays within the confines of a context that doesn't exists. Certain big country constitution is a prime example of that.

homer456 a minute ago | parent | prev [-]

It takes 1500 hours of training to get licensed to cut hair in California.

ikiris 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

dumb regulation meaning any regulation they don't understand the purpose of is the point.

airstrike 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's a stretch rather than a point.

Braxton1980 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Dumb regulation being subjective

sbayg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Subjective being subjective

nfw2 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The word subjective is not itself subjective. People understand the definition of the word subjective.

thaumasiotes an hour ago | parent [-]

https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/2007-12-11

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pseudocomposer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think “when you buy a product, be it a game, a house, a car, a computer, a tractor, washer, TV, it should continue to operate without rent-seeking behavior” is the best type of straightforward, uniformly-applicable pattern of regulation one could hope for. Opposing rent-seeking is literally why we have American democracy, which paved the way for French, Brazilian, Canadian, Indian, Mexican and so many other democracies. Kings were the ultimate rent-seekers: every citizen was the product.

It’s not like this is some special case. People make the exact same arguments against John Deere, Tesla, Apple etc. And it’s a major reason many understand we should favor local (or local-capable/open-weight) AI/LLMs. I think “for any product whose support is discontinued, with more than X users, either open source all relevant software and hardware schematics, or provide a binary that will work on the hardware in perpetuity without DRM checks, based on industry” is a miniscule request in the face of any of these industries. I’d say, for instance, weights for discontinued Claude and OpenAI versions would fit. And it’s exactly the type of problem (functioning) democracies are meant for.

airstrike 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hear, hear! One of the best comments I've read in over a decade on this site

vanviegen 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Though your point may have some value, your comment comes across as meanspirited and ad hominem.

Also, regulation is not universally supported by knowledgeable consumers. Often quite the opposite, in fact.

nfw2 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Mean spirited sure, ad hominem, no. It's satirizing the argument, not personal traits unrelated to the argument

kybernetikos 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's definitely a bad argument worthy of some sort of label. It seems to go "you believe this thing, which I won't engage with at all, but I'll assume that because of the way you said it, you also believe all this other stuff that I disagree with".

nfw2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The term you are looking for is straw man

vanviegen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I stand corrected.

protocolture 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>All the oversight and regulation about everything you don't care and/or know about is big bad government overreach.

I can literally list all the stupid regulation that needs to be removed from my industry. A lot of it is incredibly boneheaded. There's exactly 1 thing I do like, and it was extremely situational and set down in the 90s to avoid a very specific potential failure, and could easily be repealed without issue right now.

I presume, based on the experience in an industry I am very familiar with, that at least 60% of the regulation put on other industries is likewise counter productive and boneheaded. And every now and then when I do a deep dive somewhere I tend to confirm that.