> imposing what’s effectively a panopticon state on those with less power than us

I would say that cameras are protecting the honest worker as much as they help the homeowner.

> The answer to this is if you don’t trust your domestic worker to not steal from you, either hire one you do or go do your own damn domestic work

Why only these two choices? The worker is free to not take the work at a place with cameras. No one forces them.

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roughly 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I would say that cameras are protecting the honest worker as much as they help the homeowner.

The cameras are a means of rigidly enforcing the rules, to a degree that traffic on the way back from lunch becomes something that threatens one’s employment. You and I bend the rules a thousand times a day in ways big and small because the world does not accommodate rigid rules and that’s fine; the workers under panopticon surveillance are not afforded the same grace we are to navigate the circumstances where the rules and reality conflict.

> No one forces them.

Their landlord forces them. A tight labor market forces them. Time pressure forces them. Bills force them. Hunger forces them. Our entire system forces them.

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reliabilityguy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

This is extremely once-sided view. Cameras protect employees from unfounded accusations.

Cameras provide alibi to those who may be suspects, saving time and money.

And so on.

You are only seeing the negative side of cameras, but there are positives as well.

> Their landlord forces them. A tight labor market forces them. Time pressure forces them. Bills force them. Hunger forces them. Our entire system forces them.

Nope, they are free to walk away, rent without cameras, etc, etc.

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roughly 7 hours ago | parent [-]

They are indeed free to go live under a bridge, until the police tell them to move on.

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reliabilityguy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

There are a lot of choices between “under the bridge” and “cameras are evil”.

	▲	roughly 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There are indeed a lot of choices for you. Others have fewer choices.

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nkrisc 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Until everywhere has cameras. It eventually becomes a false choice.

	▲	reliabilityguy 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		in this case you can always start a business without cameras and sell it as a feature of your workspace. If workers really want no cameras, they will come.