They’re indirectly elected through national governments and parliament. That’s different from being directly elected by citizens. Being appointed by elected politicians doesn’t make someone directly accountable to voters. Citizens don’t vote for commissioners, and it’s much harder for voters to remove or reward them based on their policies.

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surgical_fire an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ao is the prime minister in any country that adopts parliamentarism.

I am still to see as many people getting riled up about how those countries are not democratic.

	▲	Obscurity4340 9 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Ao?
	▲	mattrighetti an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Again, not a single word I’ve posted says “it’s un-democratic”

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vrganj an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

So is the US president (Electoral College), the UK PM (Parliament) etc etc, yet you never hear complaints here from the same types.

Their opposition is ideological, democracy is just an excuse because their true views would be too unsavory to say out loud.

	▲	mattrighetti an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The criticism is about accountability, not whether the system is democratic. The UK pm and the POTUS are both ultimately accountable through elections. In the UK, a general election can change the government. In the US, people vote specifically for presidential electors, even if it’s through the Electoral College. The EU commission is different. People don’t vote for commissioners or the president, and they can’t vote them out in the same direct way.