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makapuf 8 hours ago

What strikes me is the relative sharp change. CO2 has been rising since, what 250 years ? However real effects of global warming seems to be felt since, like 10 years old ?

Sharlin 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s very characteristic of highly nonlinear systems, and weather/climate is the textbook nonlinear system.

inigyou 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The year-to-year fluctuations are much stronger than the overall trend. We notice only the record-breaking years and then we feel like the change occurred in the past year.

adrianN 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It helps that every other year is a record breaking year.

Certhas 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/2022-10/global_t...

CO2 and temperature track quite well. However, climate sensitivity actually says the relationship is not linear but logarithmic. Doubling CO2 increases temperature by 2-3 degrees.

The thing is, in the last decade or two we have firmly moved into the regime where we are out of the natural variability. If you get a 30 degree summer every five years instead of every ten that might be a very clear signal for warming, but is not as notable. If every summer is 30 degree and sometimes you get 40 you really feel the new climate normal.

pyrale 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> CO2 has been rising since, what 250 years

It has been rising exponentially.

> However real effects of global warming seems to be felt since, like 10 years old ?

Look up glacier timelapses. More vulnerable ecosystems have visibly reflected climate change for far longer than 10 years now.

marginalia_nu 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Atmospheric CO2 has been accelerating. We increased atmospheric CO2 by as much the last 25 years as we did the preceding century.

Dumblydorr 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Keep in mind total emissions grew much much faster in our lifetime (let’s say 1980-2026) than in the prior 200 years, which was before most of the recent huge growth in Chinese and Indian emissions.

Also the ocean and arctic were absorbing the majority of the heat. The arctics been going through these heat waves for 10 years, its white albedo decreasing and potentially permafrost melting making more effective emissions now.

We must act. Stop eating beef. Stop taking trips if possible. Vote for those who care about climate, not bugaboos like immigration. We have real problems like climate, and jump-scare tribal problems like immigrants and foreigners, which are actually good for a nation.

Saying this just having emerged from a heat dome, New England forest is not built for feels like 105F. Many living things in my own backyard are now heavily stressed by climate. We. Must. Act.

inigyou 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What action will you take to ensure next year it's only 85F?

Dumblydorr 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can’t. All you can do is realize every trip you take and every bite of beef is yet another drop in the bucket. Every vote for a denialist is probably worth 100s of burgers too, sad to say.

You must choose if your hedonism outweighs the good of our biosphere now and in future. The billions of unborn humans. The trillions of innocent life forms that might go extinct. That blue bird or cardinal in the yard with no AC. The coral reefs decimated. The poor humans suffering tremendously. We have a choice to slightly reduce these things.

Most people choose hedonism.

inigyou 8 hours ago | parent [-]

There are some actions people can take that create massively outsized consequences. The CEOs of oil companies take many of these.

swiftcoder 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What action will you take to ensure next year it's only 85F?

The time to take that particular action was 20 or 30 years ago. We're not in a position to do a damn thing about next year's heat waves, or the year after that...

What we're talking about now is taking actions that may prevent much larger heat waves 20 years from now

inigyou 8 hours ago | parent [-]

What actions will you take to ensure the summer of 2050 isn't 200F?

swiftcoder 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Solar + heat pumps, electric vehicle (I'd rather use public transit, but I live in the wilderness), eating locally-grown seasonal fruits and vegetables, etc.

I walk this walk, bud, but at the same time, whatever I do is completely irrelevant if we don't get off our collective asses and force the governments and corporations to do their part.

abroszka33 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Absolutely nothing. In fact I'm trying to enjoy the things I can while it lasts.

baggy_trough 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You aren't going to "stop eating beef" your way out of this. Addressing climate change requires technical solutions that result in clean energy that is cheaper than carbon emitting sources (in reality, not just due to regulations).

hdgvhicv 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Solar is far cheaper than other forms, despite he US subsidising fossil fuels and taxing solar

baggy_trough 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Excellent news, then all we have to do is let peoples' desire to save money take care of the problem!

bamboozled 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

“Stop eating beef.”

Nah we need to stop burning fossil fuels dude.

swiftcoder 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, we do also need to eat less beef. Its not going to fix things on its own, but it is part of multi-solving our way through this crisis

sometimelurker 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> CO2 has been rising

it rises faster now because we have more co2-emitters today than we did 20 years ago. source: economy has grown. idc if this sounds rude, but honestly you shoulve guessed this