Remix.run Logo
siva7 4 hours ago

I've switched 3 months ago to Codex because Claude got incredibly stupid. 6 months ago vice versa. It doesn't matter if you use Codex or Claude. Both will fuck with you at some point. Though Codex probably less.

selectodude 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

At least OpenAI lets me use my own harness. Having to rely on insane PMs letting Claude Mythos go wild on the codebase has not been going well lately.

tunesmith 3 hours ago | parent [-]

How do you mean OpenAI lets you use your own harness? I'm under the impression that a custom harness requires the OpenAI SDK, which requires api tokens rather than plus/pro accounts.

lhl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2058071172361998482

"A little secret. About 5% of our production traffic is on the Pi harness, about another 5% is on OpenCode. Reminder you can use your ChatGPT account in a flourishing set of other tools.

We’ll continue to make Codex awesome, but you have options."

smoe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not just harnesses, you can even use the subscription in CI/CD. That, plus the fact that web chat does not count toward the same limits, is why I think the Codex personal plan is easily 10x the value of Claude Code.

https://developers.openai.com/codex/auth/ci-cd-auth

hakunin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You must've missed the OpenAI's response to Anthropic forcing everyone to their own harness if they want subscription pricing: official endorsement of custom harnesses like opencode and pi even when used with Codex subscription.

I think they even partnered with opencode or something like that (don't remember).

HumanOstrich 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anthropic is the one that prohibits harnesses other than Claude Code on subscription plans and bans users for disobeying.

OpenAI officially allows that with subscriptions.

jerezzprime 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you use GitHub Copilot you can switch between them in the same session if you want.

gwerbin 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but now that you pay for tokens that's going to be bad for token caching.

ElFitz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same with a third-party open harness.