None of the problems with building a utopia are technological, all of the problems are social and political. What the people arguing with you are telling you is that if you ignore the social and political problems, you're going to continue to create exactly the same kinds of problems that have been caused by every other attempt to solve social and political problems with technology. When you can figure out why people in the richest country on earth lack access to health care and food, neither of which are currently limited by actual abundance or availability, we can start talking about whatever other material things you think we need to live in paradise.

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JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

> None of the problems with building a utopia are technological

Of course they are. Pre-Green revolution humanity probably couldn’t make a utopia. Currently, I’d argue we need way more energy to make utopia-like conditions available to all.

Technology isn’t sufficient. But I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s unnecessary, unless one’s utopia permits dying horribly of infection due to minor cuts and abrasions.

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roughly an hour ago | parent [-]

> Pre-Green revolution humanity probably couldn’t make a utopia.

Post-Green revolution humanity hasn’t pulled it off either.

	▲	ben_w 3 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Not entirely, but we have entirely eliminated at least one disease that was once so common there was a specific goddess to whom you prayed if you wanted to be cured of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitala
	▲	piloto_ciego 23 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's a lot better than it was for the average human on earth than it was a couple centuries ago. Utopia can't happen overnight.