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acdha 2 hours ago

Does it? My understanding was that it’s less helpful for anything which isn’t in low-earth orbit because the commercial launch engineers are optimizing for the lucrative satellite business, not larger and higher payloads.

JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> commercial launch engineers are optimizing for the lucrative satellite business, not larger and higher payloads

Commercial satellites are getting bigger and heavier. Launch that can put big and heavy in LEO can put big and slightly less heavy higher up. Add to that things like in-orbit propellant transfer and there is a good chance astronomy sees a golden age in the coming decades (in countries with space access).

I’m not dismissing the problem. Just this analysis as meriting any conclusions. It’s a start. But it’s only part of a full model of how these changes would affect astronomy.

Teever an hour ago | parent [-]

I get where you're coming from but we haven't really seen any sort of space based telescope designs that take advantage of the Falcon launch paradigm of cheap and reliable launches.

Some sort of modular telescope array that could be launched in pieces and self-assemble in orbit. Something that improves in capacity as more pieces are added.

Everything seems to have stalled in this field, as if it's just waiting for a Starship which may never come.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

> we haven't really seen any sort of space based telescope designs

We’re only starting to truly mass manufacture satellites. A world with millions of satellites means one with lots of satellite production and design economies of scale. (Same for all manner of sensors and optics.)

> as if it's just waiting for a Starship which may never come

Or it may. We’ll know in a couple years. Building a scaling production system for Falcon right now would be silly.

And if Starship never works out, we probably don’t see millions of satellites. It’s a fundamentally tied problem, which is why I say the analysis is incomplete.

Tuna-Fish 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Larger rockets are inherently more efficient, which is why all the commercial providers are moving towards them. And while yes, most of the providers are targeting primarily for LEO, if you have high payload capacity to LEO you can solve your issue of getting anywhere by packing in a kick stage. And cheap third-party kick stages are available and more are in development.