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▲ ileonichwiesz 4 hours ago

Very interesting topic, but a strange choice of source. I'd recommend these instead:

Coller foundation press release: https://www.jeremycollerfoundation.org/news-and-insights/pre...

The actual publication in Science: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads8482

▲HarHarVeryFunny an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Here's a non-paywalled version of the research.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.14.623689v1....

▲MathMonkeyMan 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It does have the title going for it.

▲technothrasher 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The title doesn't match the paper though. People had already decoded the bird calls. What the paper was giving evidence to was that the birds themselves are cognitively decoding the calls.

▲t-writescode 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m glad we’re doing this research. It makes me wonder how much time and potential we’ve wasted over the years actively assuming non-human animals were just rote automatons.

It seems like a meaningful amount of science has been spent on systematically dismantling pre-existing prejudice over the last hundreds of years (and thousands in some cases and cultures).

  All humans are human.
  Babies can feel pain.
  Plants feel.
  Animals think.
Just … So much wasted time on what should have always been seen as true.

I get that some cultures already thought some of these things, but many of these were sadly not prevailing.

▲adjejmxbdjdn 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t believe there’s any evidence behind plant’s feeling or thinking.

Other than that you’re right.

▲why_at an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah I think there's a lot of science news about how plants are capable of more than the average person thinks, but people tend to conflate that with some kind of conscious experience.

▲SapporoChris 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

What the average person thinks is a very low barrier but I do not think plants have crossed that yet.

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▲kiproping 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thank you, I was also looking for a better source and a link to the paper. I thought the paper was this older one https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06394-9 from 2018.