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6thbit 3 hours ago

That’s a beautiful article showcasing our predicament in having access to more information about the universe. Now i have to be the one to ask the dumb defensive question:

what makes us so certain that we can trust what we see on James Webb? Can we definitely discard a measurement problem?

icegreentea2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

JWST has 4 different instruments on it. While they all share the same focusing mirrors, but otherwise are 4 different measurement devices.

For the red dot observations, I believe this things have been measured by at least 3 of the 4 devices on board - NIRCam (near infrared camera, has very limited spectral capabilities through its filter wheel), NIRSpec (near infrared spectrograph) and MIRI (mid infrared instrument).

I cannot pretend to have the actual expertise, but it does seem vanishingly unlikely that all 3 instruments could create consistent artefacts in the same location.

wussboy 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Unless there was a flaw in the mirrors they all use. I’m not saying this is so, but the software developer in me would immediately try to figure out what was wrong with the component they shared.

consp 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Afaik they did that during calibration. Take known close by objects, compare results, make sure they are the same (up to the capabilities of your ground truth).

neffy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some of the Hubble results were also raising questions. At the same time, I read one of the papers on the galaxy stuff, and what struck me was they were identifying galaxy shapes by counting the pixels each galaxy had, so there are definitely some question marks over how they do some of this.

tetris11 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You would expect more background pixel fuzz when centering an image kernel over an artefact.

In Hubble, that fuzz was marked. With Webb, far less so.

I think these are real true positives

scotty79 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> what makes us so certain that we can trust what we see on James Webb?

We can trust what we see. We can't trust there's nothing where we don't see anything.

BurningFrog 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is one reason to dislike the NASA process of building one huge prestige telescope every few decades.

astro1234 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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