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recursivecaveat 7 hours ago

I would consider it extremely obscure overall. A large majority of programmers would not be aware of its existence. At the same time there are clearly much less popular languages with articles so it is kindof weird to push to delete. (eg: random scheme implementation w/ no releases in 20 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISC) I would say that wikipedia broadly favors programming languages as far as notability. Like most nerd/geek things their footprint skews toward the internet, and people who enjoy geek stuff are more likely to be wikipedia admins than the general population.

woodruffw 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is an argument for deleting those non-notable articles as well, not retaining other non-notable articles.

nvme0n1p1 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SISC is there because it's not notable, so the busybodies haven't even noticed the page exists. Odin, however, is notable, and that put it on their radar as a target for attacking its notability.

chris_wot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not more obscure than Brainfuck.

traes 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

What? Brainfuck is the single least obscure esoteric programming language. It's the most famous example of a simple Turing complete language and its provocative name gets it a fair amount of media coverage outside its niche.

chris_wot 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

Could you use it in production?

traes 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

From Cambridge dictionary:

obscure (adjective)

not known to many people:

- an obscure island in the Pacific

- an obscure 12th-century mystic

Why does its use in production matter? Perhaps the syntax itself is obscure, but we're not discussing syntax but general awareness. Anyway, the most common "real" use of brainfuck is to prove Turing completeness of other things by finding a way to compile them into brainfuck.

chris_wot 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you quote the dictionary to win an argument, quote it in full. There are two definitions of obscure in the Cambridge dictionary. The other is:

obscure (adjective)

not clear and difficult to understand or see:

- Official policy has changed, for reasons that remain obscure.

- His answers were obscure and confusing.

- "the syntax itself is obscure"