I'm curious how the HN zeitgeist hates datacenters so ferociously yet every third article posted to the front page is 800 comments beating off to a new Claude feature. It's mind-boggling.

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bigbadfeline 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> yet every third article posted to the front page is 800 comments beating off to a new Claude feature

In addition to the bot farms, many in the AI related fields have plenty of perverse incentives to participate - for reasons other than genuine interest. That's why I don't read those threads, although the marketing angle is easy to see it's also prevalent and laboring to filter out all 90% of it isn't worth the effort.

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Zigurd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Let's assume you're not lumping all data centers in together in bad faith. Just like Elon's tunnels are not a subway system, a repurposed crypto mine isn't a real AI data center. There's a right way to build, fund, and power data centers, and a sketchy, unethical, greedy, polluting, inflationary, and financially corrupt way to do it.

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thegrim33 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Half the traffic on this site are real, intelligent humans (among whom opinion is split different ways on the AI topic), a quarter of the traffic is propagandists trying to destroy western tech/infrastructure/society (notice how China apparently doesn't have to stop AI development or datacenter development, only the West does), and the remaining quarter is real humans who have been utterly consumed by the previously mentioned propagandists and are parroting the same messaging.

	▲	bigbadfeline 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> a quarter of the traffic is propagandists trying to destroy western tech/infrastructure/society The most effective enemy propaganda is called "sticker shock". When the sticker goes up in a week, it's double propaganda. I'm fully onboard with the idea of stopping the propaganda producers from continuing to do it.
	▲	nfw2 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		This violates Occam's razor despite it being sort of an obvious thing I would do if I was ccp
	▲	Zigurd 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		You're thinking of trains and rail lines. They deployed an obnoxious billionaire to dig tunnels that are useless and to propagandize against mass transit, while building the world's envy of a rail system. On the other hand, the Chinese lag way behind in data centers. Odd.
	▲	Freedom2 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I struggle sometimes to accept this. This site has been fostering great, curious discussion thanks to everyone diligently following the posting guidelines. As such, if everyone was discussing curiously, how could one simply parrot propaganda? It's unfathomable, and worse, goes against the commenting guidelines.

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danaris 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You have fallen victim to the Two Guys Fallacy.

In general, if you are observing a community, and you see what looks like a contradiction like this, almost every time what you're actually seeing is Two Guys: in this case, one portion of the HN userbase that hates datacenters, and another portion that has to change their underwear every time Anthropic puts out new release notes.

Very few communities like HN are genuinely monolithic, and very few people are going to hold such contradictory beliefs within the same individual.

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