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jrflo 7 hours ago

You forgot the first goalpost: the Turing test.

AnotherGoodName 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Even that line's very debatable though. Passing always under every circumstance? No.

Passing specific tests to the point that the internet is now full of "Is that content AI generated or not" debates? Yes

jrflo 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think this is a good example of the moving goalposts. The Turing test is not "AI is indistinguishable from human writing 100% of the time", it's whether it is possible at all for a system can be designed where a person can be fooled into thinking they're talking to a human when they're actually talking to a computer in a turn-based text exchange. It is a "there exits..." problem rather than a "for all..." problem.

suddenlybananas 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it's a there exists problem, then it was solved by ELIZA in the 60s.

AnotherGoodName 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I think your post is a very good example of goal post moving.

We currently have debates around whether content online is human or ai generated and instead of acknowledging the milesetone we have a post essentially claiming "the turing test was passed long ago, it's worthless".

suddenlybananas 6 hours ago | parent [-]

How am I moving the goal post by pointing out that, by their definition, the goal "was scored" in the 1960s.

sambapa 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's not a Turing test

jrflo 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It is the original Turing test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Versions