I'm always curious if people who think like this have ever owned a business and had to convince people to actually give them money for what they do.

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AaronAPU 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I literally do own a business and my profits are held back by the mere fact that I don’t actively try to manipulate people into giving me their money.

	▲	tracerbulletx 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Just to be clear I think there is a difference between saying "there are systemic issues in the way some businesses market and sell that sometimes are harmful to the public good, violate ethical and moral boundaries, and we should try to fix perverse incentives and regulate bad behavior" and "marketing is evil and we think it's funny to post videos suggesting they all commit suicide."
	▲	john_strinlai 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		you just replied to a comment with an unsolicited advert of your website less than 2 weeks ago. you are running a banner with a discount on your website where you also solicit testimonials. you have a dedicated youtube channel and facebook for your company. you advertise yourself on gearspace. your HN username is even an advertisement for your company. outreach, discount sales, testimonials, business pages are all marketing. "purest form of evil" unless you're doing it i guess. (or, perhaps, there's some nuance to be had instead of proclaiming marketing in general to be one of the "purest forms of evil in existence"...? )
	▲	drawfloat 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why does your username contain “APU”?