| ▲ | MBCook 8 hours ago |
| Since then GM has dropped CarPlay. Rivian has appeared following Tesla and refusing to support it. And I thought there were some other existing manufacturer who was either getting rid of it or thinking about it. Basically despite the popularity the market seems to be moving against it slowly. And the more those cars succeed the more other auto makers will be willing to follow. |
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| ▲ | bhhaskin 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's not that the market is moving away, but more like car companies realized if they want to sell monthly subscriptions in the future, they need to own the software. |
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| ▲ | bitmasher9 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The car companies need to stay in their lanes on this one. You’re risking selling a >$40k piece of hardware that requires professional service every six months in order to sell me $240/yr in software subscriptions. | | |
| ▲ | orthogonal_cube 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | $240/yr in software subscriptions but likely far more than that by selling the extra metadata they can extract from the service | | |
| ▲ | bhhaskin 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | its likely not the metadata, since they already have access and sell that, but then they can sell ads on maps like Google does. |
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| ▲ | my_username_is_ 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is crazy to me because the primary value proposition of Rivian's Connect+, as I see it, is enabling the hotspot while you're in the car and being able to monitor Gear Guard while you're away from the car. These are entirely separate from supporting CarPlay/Android Auto. If Rivian et al. truly want to sell a premium product, their software needs to be premium. And frankly it's just not there. The other day I was trying to listen to an upcoming album that has a few singles released. On my phone I can do that no problem. On the Rivian Spotify app, the album just didn't show up. It wasn't possible to play those songs in order without searching for the songs one by one. There are a ton of things that I love about my R1T, but as more time passes, the gap between what they offer and what other manufacturers offer becomes more and more apparent |
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| ▲ | jghn 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm in this camp: I will not buy a car without CarPlay. And I put so few miles on my car that while I'd like a new one, if the vendors make this impossible then no one gets my money. |
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| ▲ | nozzlegear 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Same here. I have a Chevy that supports wireless CarPlay and I refuse to buy a car that doesn't have it. We're looking at replacing it soon, and we're going to go with a Subaru in no small part because it supports CarPlay. | |
| ▲ | Induane 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are there vehicles that support it in a way that isn't buggy? I have a few friends with it and I don't think I've been on a single ride with them without a glitch. Freezing interface, spontaneously jumping to regular Bluetooth, music playing but no actual volume, plugging into usb power causing some kind of mode-shift that makes the screen hang or briefly cease to work, all kinds of nonsense. Also kind of weirdly bad interface I feel (very subjective opinion there, obviously that's not a "fact"). I've only had Android Auto in my own vehicles, and while it hasn't been as buggy, it feels slow. I never use it anymore. | | |
| ▲ | Mogzol 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Regarding Android Auto being slow, it could just be due to your phone. It has to stream the whole interface as video to the car's infotainment system over USB (or Wi-Fi on newer models), then handle taps and stuff that it receives back, if you're using an old or budget android phone then that can be pretty laggy. | | |
| ▲ | Induane 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have the Nothing Phone 3a now, before that, I had all flagship pixels. 0 were not slow. I always figured it had to do with the infotainment centers implementation of the protocols or simply their hardware. It was always stable for me, just sluggish. If I had to pick I'd take sluggish over constantly buggy of course. So props there. The infotainment setup on my Tesla though is golden with only the occasional quirk. After using that, Carplay and Android Auto feel very regressive. A guy I work with has an R2 so I got to tinker with it and I figured it would be comparable but it actually kinda sucked. |
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| ▲ | hamburglar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I own a Ford and a BMW, both with CarPlay. The BMW is flawless. The Ford just refuses to connect about 10% of the time and requires the infotainment system to be rebooted. It also occasionally connects but leaves audio coming out of the phone speaker. So yes, implementations vary. | | |
| ▲ | happymellon 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have a Ford that after 13 years is reaching the point where I'm considering replacing it. Their homemade infotainment system prior to CarPlay was awful, and has an overflow error which hits me about once every 6 months which requires pulling the fuse to hard reset it. As far as I can tell they keep adding new songs to a stack, and never flush it so at some point you'll reach the end of a song and it won't play any more. Once you reached that you can only use the phone function, attempts to use music result in you getting your Bluetooth connection terminated. |
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| ▲ | nerdsniper 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Haven’t had issues with Hondas or Toyotas since the 2020ish models at least | | |
| ▲ | Induane 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's funny you mention Toyota, my Dad's 2022 Civic Hybrid is the one I get to witness being buggy garbage pretty much non-stop with CarPlay. Lord don't plug it into the USB port that does data if you're already on wireless Carplay. You might be done until you pull over. I also love the way using speech to reply to a text often resumes the wrong song (seemingly just starts a random song midway through, and multiple times the Joe Rogan Podcast which dad doesn't listen to and is not subscribed to - when this happens it always starts at the same point in the intro). I don't actually know if the Toyota infotainment setup is to blame though. Since I've never encountered a reasonably stable, glitch free Carplay experience in the last 5 years, I've always just figured "that must be how CarPlay is". I have never owned an iPhone so I only get the cliffnotes version of the experience. But since it's got a 0% track record in that limited viewing, I'm either unlucky, emit magical anti-apple em waves, or am possessed by the soul of Steve Jobs favourite black shirt. I don't know if the sensitivity to Siri can be turned down, again not an iPhone guy myself, but it bugs me how often we will be talking and suddenly the audio stops and Siri says "I don't know how to help you with that" or something similar. Sometimes we just don't talk so that we don't constantly have Siri interrupting Hardcore History. |
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| ▲ | whateveracct 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | my mazda cx-5 has had no issues. it's an extension of my phone at this point. fun car to drive too. zoom zoom :) | | |
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| ▲ | _fizz_buzz_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Tesla might actually support car play soonish: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-13/tesla-is-... |
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| ▲ | jnaina 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same here. CarPlay is in the top 10 features for my next Car. Even for my older 911 which I bought second hand, the first investment was a Pioneer head unit with CarPlay. |
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| ▲ | artisinal 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | In my opinion, anything older than a 996 shouldn’t have an infotainment screen. Looks very out of place. Just use a phone mount for navigation or use audio navigation through a period correct radio. | | |
| ▲ | trinix912 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree. I find it tacky when people buy old BMWs and Mercedeses just to throw the original (often mint condition) radio unit out and put in a cheap carplay display. Like you have this 30 year old car with a pristine wooden trim where all components align nicely in design and you decide to ruin it for the convenience of having notifications in your face while driving? A phone holder looks much less invasive. | |
| ▲ | jnaina an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's a 997. it had the original OEM double din stereo with the Nav. Porsche offered the PCCM CarPlay upgrade, but decided the Pioneer unit was much better. | | |
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| ▲ | SirMaster 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| GM has not dropped CarPlay. I just checked out some 2026 GM vehicles (Chevy) and they list CarPlay. |
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| ▲ | adamcstephens 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | It may be for MY 2027. I know the new Bolt drops it. | | |
| ▲ | dhosek 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Right now it’s only dropped in GM’s EVs. Of course when this causes a drop in EV sales, they’ll use that as an excuse to kill off their EV lines. | | |
| ▲ | MBCook 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They’ll attribute that to something else and claim dropping CarPlay was a huge success and do it in gas models. | | |
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| ▲ | chris222 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Tesla might support it. https://www.teslarati.com/apple-developing-missing-link-tesl... |