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october8140 8 hours ago

CarPlay is bad for the car manufacturer and is far worse than the modern car software. People who complain about loosing CarPlay are not using the new software but reacting in fear thinking the old car software will come back.

The author acts like manufacturers get CarPlay for free when it has a high cost, high constraints, and gives over most or all of the dash over to another company.

greyface- 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> gives over most or all of the dash over to another company

The dash isn't the manufacturer's property. It's the car owner's.

al_borland 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> gives over most or all of the dash over to another company.

This was covered in the article, that’s just CarPlay Ultra, which is still fairly new and hardly any companies have implemented it. That’s not what’s being asked for.

> fear thinking the old car software will come back.

Why would this not be a concern? Condition forces higher quality. If these car companies are competing against Apple and Google, they need to stop phoning it in. If they block them out, they can ship more junk and drivers are just stuck with it.

If they believe it what they ship, they shouldn’t be afraid to also build in CarPlay/Android Auto support. Have the sales people go over the built in system so people give it a chance. Impress the customers with it. Advertise how good it is. Eliminating the competition and claiming it’s for the best, does not inspire confidence.

MBCook 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> This was covered in the article, that’s just CarPlay Ultra

And Apple doesn’t just take it over. It requires a per-model design package the OEM makes with Apple’s help. So they can keep all their logos and design elements they care about.

They still don’t do it, as you pointed out. But it’s not like using an AppleTV to avoid the terrible built in smart TV interface. The OEM is still there.

wvenable 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> CarPlay is bad for the car manufacturer and is far worse than the modern car software.

I have a new car with actually pretty decent modern car software; far better than the decades of crap software I put up with my last car. Carplay is still better. And in another decade, Carplay will be even better and my decent car software will be the same.

(And the car software and Carplay actually play very nicely together -- it is not all or nothing)

mikeocool 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I drive a 2026 Toyota, how do I enable this new good native infotainment system of which you speak?

The one in my car sucks, and to use the most basic features (navigation, music) that cost nothing on CarPlay (beyond my phone bill) cost $15-25/month from Toyota.

rootusrootus 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a Tesla and want CarPlay. What car has this better, newer software that you say I’m unaware of?

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