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mullingitover 11 hours ago

It's incredible how badly the US has been dog-walked by both its 'ally' as well as Iran.

"America First" brought to you by "The Peace President"[1].

[1] https://xcancel.com/WhiteHouse/status/1976081153699508480

8note 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

im really not convinced israel is an ally, vs a nuclear threat that has had the US by the balls for decades.

who else has attacked the US navy with the US staying hush hush about it?

the_solenoid 11 hours ago | parent [-]

If you frame it as an entity that launders the military industrial complex's desires to test weapons, keep congress beholden, and keep conflicts going forever – then work backwards from there, the allowance of their subversion makes perfect sense, as well as the over the top allegiance of those congresscritters it buys.

Dunno if that is how it works but I have never been able to square the capitulation in our government without that tie. This is also considering the influence of christian z's.

Cernunnos 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is only so much you can do when you've been purchased by mossad.

throwaway85825 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Purchased, blackmailed, threatened, or all 3. There's a lot of tools in the intelligence toolbox.

dribbiy8 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not just that, a hugely disproportionate number of American politicians are Jewish. It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic to point out that objective fact.

cassianoleal 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not only that, but even a lot who aren't Jewish are openly zionists - e.g. Joe Biden.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens...

fsckboy 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic

it is if you think the reason is something that's not benign, or if you are keeping track of it and spreading it hoping to foment anger.

A hugely disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes have been won by Jews (22% vs 0.2% of total population) and that's with 6 million killed in the holocaust. By Occam's razor, that's a lot of really smart people, and I prefer having smart leaders.

Do you think the President of Mexico and Ukraine are Jewish because Mossad?

Let me guess, you think all the above is because they cheated?

dribbiy8 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know or care if Mossad has anything to do with their positions, that wasn't my point. My point was that Israel doesn't even need to blackmail or bribe politicians when they already have some allegiance to Israel (ie. being Jewish).

I mean, if there was an ethnostate for my people, and I happened to be in an influential position in a foreign superpower, you'd better believe I'm taking every opportunity to fleece the foreigners to send resources to my family, friends, and people back home. I don't know how you could live with yourself if you didn't do this.

Jewish politicians in the US certainly seem to see it this way in any matter regarding Israel or the Jewish people.

thecrash 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It's important to note that there are very many Jews in the world who are not Zionist and many Jews in Israel who disagree with the Palestinian genocide.

They're not the majority, but there are still a lot of them.

throw310822 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They are a lot but they're a small minority overall.

newspaper1 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you claiming Jews are more intelligent than non-Jews?

fsckboy 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not claiming it, just repeating it, it's very well known in IQ testing. Ashkenazi Jews test more than a standard deviation above the mean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

anything that says that IQ tests don't work is just woke DEI "we don't like the results so we'll dismiss them". IQ testing is a very well trialed and tested field, it's one of the earliest uses of statistics in science.

newspaper1 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So you do think Jews are smarter than non-Jews. I welcome your return to reality. It will be well deserved.

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bulbar 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Look what Rütte did. Everybody knows how to play Trump. The whole world now plays "do whatever you want, just take care to make Trump thinking he looks good while doing it, or at least afterwards".

The US isn't an actor anymore on the global stage. It's the playball.

wat10000 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You’d think he could have done better, what with all that foreign policy experience from his years on The Apprentice.

diogenescynic 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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dang 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Would you please stop posting flamewar comments to HN? We've been having to ask you about this for years:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28364581 (Aug 2021)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24207111 (Aug 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24195905 (Aug 2020)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18550150 (Nov 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16446553 (Feb 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15459663 (Oct 2017)

p.s. It ought to go without saying, but this has nothing to do with the views that you're for or against. It's possible to make your substantive points without breaking HN's rules, so please do so.

grandpajoey 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I can't help but notice that you said you would ban this account and yet it's here again spreading hasbara.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48563886

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48768670

drivingmenuts 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Their PR machine is amazing in how it's conflated criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism, in a country where religion and state are supposed to be separate (not that we're very good at that, mind you). And they've convinced the world that the Holocaust somehow allows them to perpetrate the same crimes against humanity with impunity.

It's incredibly frustration because the only "reasonable" opinion allowed is full-throated support of Israel or else. There's no allowance for nuance.

the_origami_fox 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Extreme hatred of Israel can be called antizionism or Israel Derangement Syndrome and aligns well with anti-Western and anti-American views. See how many comments insult both America and Israel here. Antizionism is the intense hatred and focus of one tiny middle Eastern country. It is not normal but it has been normalised. Antizionism is a hate movement.

It's incredibly frustrating because the only "reasonable" opinion we're allowed is full-throated denial of Israel's right to exist and the end of anything Jewish associated with it. There's no allowance for nuance.