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bigstrat2003 a day ago

LLMs are worse at programming than any dev I've ever worked with. Yes, even $latest_model. They have no understanding or ability to reason, and they make mistakes no human would make. They are, in short, bad at programming.

jcelerier a day ago | parent | next [-]

I've seen developers pushing code repeatedly to car engine firmware with for-loops that weren't even valid C syntax, have yet to see a modern LLM do this kind of mistake

sscaryterry a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You've not worked with average developers then, or this is a purely reactionary/emotional statement.

pooploop64 a day ago | parent [-]

In my experience it's always been easier to work with terrible human programmers because the terribleness of their code is inherently bound to human comprehension. Of course I've seen some absolutely massive messes created by humans. But generally if a human wrote it then a human can understand it. Also it takes an amount of time and effort for a human to create this kind of mess which tends to actually be more effort than what a more experienced person will expend to fix what is wrong with it. LLMs flip all this on it's head. Plus there's the thing the Godot statement talks about. I have a completely different willingness to help a struggling noob rise through the same trajectory I did, compared to fixing someone else's LLM code.

hypfer a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I know what you mean regarding the class of mistakes, but strong disagree on the "worse" part.

Or rather I envy you for your experience with humans so far.