| ▲ | delichon 6 hours ago |
| > Grok AI generated large amounts of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate imagery Grok Imagine has been considerably locked down in terms of intimate imagery over the last few weeks. E.g. Harley Quinn used to be one of the easiest characters to manipulate, with or without any resemblance to Margot Robbie. No more. X still serves up explicit hardcore, and Imagine used to get at least in that neighborhood, but that has been squelched. For prurient purposes, nerfed. Not at all limited to CSAM or real people. The pressure they're getting from all over seems to explain it. |
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| ▲ | WatchDog 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Whatever you think about X's image generation models, I don't see how it is related to the petition that the EFF is opposing. Is generation of non-consensual imagery really a privacy issue? If someone publishes a real naked photo of you, that was acquired without your consent, that would be a privacy issue. If someone generates a naked photo of you, even if it looks identical to a real photo, it's not your private data. |
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| ▲ | totetsu 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the terminology here can confuse the issue a bit. And because its such a socially pernicious and stigmatized topic, it's hard to even talk about the phrasing without without raising doubts as to why you would get caught up in the weeds on such an issue. But, I would say there is use in making the distinction between something that is CSAM, where its a record of abuse that has happened to a real child, and sexualized depictions of children, or content promoting the sexualization of children. The social and personal harms are distinct, and if we are to firmly understand the arguments for/against guardrails on generative AI, then it's a distinction that needs to be made I think. | |
| ▲ | dualvariable 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In an ideal world, generated non-consensual imagery should be illegal through invasion of privacy through misappropriation of name or likeness, but I think only a limited number of states have those laws. | |
| ▲ | righthand 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is it private data if it was scraped from my social media profile marked private but leaked through a shared party? My expectation was that image would only be shared with those I wanted to see it (form of privacy). | | |
| ▲ | WatchDog 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's fair. Is there any indication as to if xAi trains on private profiles? |
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| ▲ | numpad0 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | "CSAM" is a codeword for anime. Users of this term routinely reject focusing on real kids and abuses. I assume "privacy" must be therefore a codeword too, especially considering that nonconsensual shocking images can be handled by defamation laws than privacy laws and principles. | | |
| ▲ | vitally3643 a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] | | You'd probably enjoy life a lot more if you go touch some grass once in a while. See a squirrel or something. | |
| ▲ | kg 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I would hope we can agree that aggressive policing of anime and cartoons is a bad thing without denying the real existence of CSAM - the actual thing - or denying the bad things that have to occur for it to exist |
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| ▲ | thinkcontext 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble. |
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| ▲ | andrewinardeer 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | | | |
| ▲ | CSMastermind 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Reddit did the same. Tumblr died when it banned porn. There seems to be a very perverse incentive for social media platforms to be as permissive as possible. Personally, I'd be in favor of banning all sexual content on X, but it really feels like a legislative solution applying to all social media platforms might be the best solution. And yes I realize the slippery slope that could put us on. | | |
| ▲ | hgoel 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The issue wasn't specifically allowing NSFW content, it was allowing anyone to get grok to openly make NSFW deepfakes of anyone without even an attempt at policing things. |
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| ▲ | vlian2088 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Grok AI generated large amounts of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate imagery on it own? on Musk's orders? it's "people used Grok AI to generate large amounts of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate imagery". people use all sorts of things to do all sorts of shit. |
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| ▲ | numpad0 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | There was a small number of crazy anime nerds rotating accounts tokenmaxxing Grok image generation to generate anime and cosplayer porn shorts with egregiously low yields and no intention of even publishing the results let alone monetizing, something like <1 result per daily quota across few accounts. Grok was briefly focused on adult usage, and they took advantage of that, until it was too much for even xAI. It seems British online advocacy groups tend to use "CSAM" as circumlocution for "anime", perhaps inspired by the fact that both imagined and real figures seen in anime related content always look to be below legal ages to some to the point that said some thinks it can be banned as willfully depicting underaged entities, so maybe this is a push coming from that direction. | |
| ▲ | jimbooonooo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes and we should stop at elsewhere too. " it happened elsewhere n times" is a terrible excuse for inaction. | | |
| ▲ | vlian2088 an hour ago | parent [-] | | your iPhone can be used to film non-imaginary CSAM and securely distribute it with Signal over the Internet. think of the children and throw it into a blender. |
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| ▲ | appplication an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Politely, what on earth point are you trying to make? Whatever it is it really is not coming across well. | | | |
| ▲ | Stefan-H 35 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | "We only build and operate the orphan crushing machine, it's people that line up to turn the crank". |
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| ▲ | sieabahlpark 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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