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FiatLuxDave 43 minutes ago

Rarely have I seen someone shoot down their own argument with a link quite as effectively as this.

You might want to google those cities, since every single one that I've checked is a small population city surrounded by rural area.

Your argument about cultural influence might be more persuasive if you compared larger cities.

PaulHoule a minute ago | parent [-]

I don't disbelieve the cultural influence myself but I'm pretty sure that urbanization matters.

I think the master narrative of human civilization is that almost all of us had ancestors working in subsistence agriculture a few generation ago who have moved or are moving into urban areas. This transition is largely complete in the US and Europe, happened explosively in China post-1980 and is about 2/3 complete there and is less far along in Africa and South America. Birth rates go down in this process.