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CrzyLngPwd 5 hours ago

It should be just "en", since we invented and it's the one true version:-)

mghackerlady 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

English (traditional) and English (simplified)

Dwedit 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some of the different spellings used by US English are because of changes made to British English that did not happen in the US.

HPsquared 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Main branch and the various forks.

xg15 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do the needful!

blenderob 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Is that an en-IN joke?

dgellow 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

given English evolved from Norman French, it's maybe just a local variation than a true invention? fr-GB feels more correct :)

PaulDavisThe1st 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is more or less completely false. English has an unusually high number of loan words from French (on the order of 10k or so, I think), and this has made the language less Germanic than its historical origins would suggest. But English existed before Norman French arrived in the British Isles, and is still at heart a Germanic language.

dgellow 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Did you actually think I wanted fr-GB to replace en-GB?

It was a joke based on the Norman French references from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_English

sgt 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That may be true, but in practice, US english has no taken over as the de-facto English. All thanks to the Internet.

I am glad someone is pushing back on this, though, and I want more multi lingual sites on the Internet in general.

ChrisRR 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

By your logic, chinese english or indian english are the defacto as they massively outnumber american english

You just mean that you visit more american sites than other non-US english speaking sites

sgt 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're confusing number of speakers with convention or standard setting power.

Look at the places where US english has become the norm or convention; programming, media, apps, business, Internet in general.

And the US is in unique position - it drives technology forward quite a bit, and it's also actual native English speakers.

So in other words got more to do with technological and economic influence, not population size.

pepperoni_pizza 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

According to wikipedia, there's 128 millions of en-IN speakers, of which only few hundred thousands are native - while there's 248 million native en-US speakers.

throwaway2037 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You raise a great point here. At what point will a non-English speaking country become the nation with the most English speakers? In my mind, surely that is Indian by 2050. If they can become upper middle income by that time (I am sure of it), then I guess more that half of adults will speak English at least at elementary to middle school level. (Dear reader: Please don't read that as a slight against the English language skills of Indians. I know from personal experience: With five grade level language skills, you can get a lot done!) They would way out number the number of English speaking Americans.

AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Go to France, or Japan, or Hungary, or somewhere like that. Someone there is visiting a web site that is in English. Now, what English is it most likely to be?

My guess is US English, not UK English, not Indian English, not Chinese English. Sure, they may visit some of those sites, but I suspect that the most frequent will be US English.

edent 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm in IT right now having travelled through FR, DE, NO, PL and half a dozen more countries. When selecting the EN option on a website it is almost 100% of the time with a GB flag. The spelling is mostly en-GB as well.

throwaway2037 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In this case, Japan is special. There relationship (post WW2) with the US is unparalleled compared to France or Hungary. It will absolutely be US style. Japan was never very close with the UK.

mghackerlady 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I think the only 2 countries that teach american english are Japan and the Philippines

throwaway2037 an hour ago | parent [-]

Most countries in North East Asia or South East Asia (exclude South Asia) teach US-style English. A few that come to mind: South Korea, Taiwan, Mainland China, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Indonesia.

sgt 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Correct, generally speaking they will have their own default locales on their computer and local sites will be in e.g. French but going to Instagram it will render in US English - unless the app has been translated, which it probably has so it's not the best example.

ChrisRR 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I've just checked my instagram and it's using the UK spelling "favourites"

sgt an hour ago | parent [-]

Where are you, by the way?

drnick1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> not Indian English, not Chinese English

There is no such thing as Chinese English, unless you politely mean "English as incorrect spoken by Chinese native speakers."

mghackerlady 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a national english for anywhere it's widely spoken, that's just how international languages like english and french work.

mghackerlady 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, no I don't think it has. Americans are vastly outnumbered by commonwealth states using and teaching standard English

sgt 4 hours ago | parent [-]

See my other comment, the world follows the US. It's about where the influence is primarily coming from, and that is currently America. And in terms of English it has a distinct advantage in that it is full of native speakers. Many Indians are proficient in English but they're not native speakers.