Not quitting just yet, but the culture is super toxic lately. Managers will promise things that are not feasible, set absurd deadlines, and then let engineers take the fall if they don't meet those deadlines. When engineers come up with good ideas, managers will say it's a bad idea, but then run away with the idea and take the credit.

I wake up every day wondering if I should quiet quit or go for a clean exit.

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pablopudding 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I had a co-worker like this. Management believed him over me when I complained. Go for a clean exit once you've found a new position. This toxic environment hurts your mental health more than you think.

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louwrentius 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quiet quit aka : do the actual amount of work you are are paid for and don't let yourself get ripped off due to 'pressures'.

	▲	skeeter2020 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		most people are paid as full time salary employees, aka 35-40 hours/week. You may feel that you personally do way more work than everyone else (80%+ plus of people do) but you don't get to define what "the actual amount of work you are paid for" is. There's usually lots of opportunities to find time to learn or go on tangents in non-terrible jobs, but unless your boss is quiet quitting as well, they - and your coworkers - will know, and this will screw you far more in the future than just quiting and getting a new job.

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NDizzle 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe we should start a support group.

	▲	voakbasda 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There is one in your area. They meet at the bar down the street after work.

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jongjong 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You just shouldn't take anything too seriously. I used to resent being paid by the hour instead of based on deliverables.

But nowadays, in the current environment, I am extremely glad that I get paid hourly. It's a different skillset. There's a lot of acting and sometimes drama involved but thankfully I'm good at both engineering and acting... Also, I kind of like drama. Anyone who cares about their work, in this economy, is delusional (probably had it easy) and it's a matter of time before reality gets to them as it did to me and many others.

I feel kind of bad for colleagues who take their job too seriously though. I can feel their pain but I can't tell them to relax because I have to also act my part and pretend to feel passionate.

However, my real passion these days is money hitting my bank account. Puts a smile on my face. The less hard I worked, the happier I am. And I'm paid by the hour. So logically I need to create situations to maximize my lock-in factor, above all else.

If you can keep up the pretense for 2 years, then that's enough to keep you employed perpetually. So engineers should focus more on acting skills and other soft skills and less on technical stuff.

Look at all the people in management roles who made big money, none of them have technical skills. It's all about acting. If they built their entire career out of bullshit, surely I can build the second half of mine out of bullshit also! By the time I retire, I'd still have contributed more value than them!