It doesn't solve the current issue, but in case we don't manage to push back on this, some people might not know that there are various actual linux OSes for mobile:

- SailfishOS: still linux based and seems fairly community inclusive, but the UI part of the stack is closed source. Is the only one officially allowed to run android apps, via emulation. Has existed for a very long time, it's lightweight and I think the most stable/bug-free in this list.

- Ubuntu Touch: fully open source and community driven, it uses snap packages for security, you might be able to run android apps. Last time I run it also seemed fairly stable/bug-free.

- PureOS: fully open source and privacy focused. I think it's the only one that, released with the Librem 5, can avoid using proprietary blobs for interfacing with the hardware. Seems less stable than SailfishOS and Ubuntu Touch. You would need to buy a fairly expensive-but-old phone(librem 5) to run it.

- PostmarketOS: fully open source, focused on being lightweight and revive old phones, has a huge amount of phones it has been tested on, is based on Alpine.

- Mobian: mobile version of Debian, it's fairly new on this list.

There are many more linux mobile OSes, but as far as I know these are the main ones. There might also be some inaccuracies on this post, I tested some of these a long time ago, and I never actually run the last 2.

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hollow-moe 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And all are useless because you can't use your mandatory bank or gov id app.

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karussell 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not useless. It is like the missing printer driver for Linux Desktop. It makes the experience ugly, but this is not the fault of the Linux OSes.

Also the bank should not require apps (instead they can offer hardware key support or desktop apps) and in fact some - at least in Germany - offer a different authentication possibility. Also the app for the German ID is published on fdroid and does not rely on Google services.

	▲	trinix912 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Good for Germans then. Slovenian banks won't let you use physical 2FA authenticators (for personal accounts and maybe even business ones at this point) anymore and will also require you to constantly update their stupid app (I've had to replace some otherwise good phones because the OS version wasn't supported anymore).
	▲	mr_mitm 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		There are plenty of banks in Germany which offer over-the-counter services, if you prefer to do banking as if it's 1999. Most of the time, when people say it's impossible to live without a smartphone, it's actually only impossible to enjoy the conveniences of the internet without a smartphone (at least in Germany). Besides these rentable scooters, I can't think of anything that actually requires a smartphone. Sure, you'll miss out on a lot of conveniences, but I remember a time where that was the norm, so it's not like it's unreasonable.
	▲	int_19h an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The question of how useful or not it is is orthogonal to whether it is the "fault" of Linux. Users who can't use it because something they need just doesn't work won't change their minds because the blame lies elsewhere.
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JeremyNT 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're moving to a world where it makes sense to have one cheap locked down phone with the society mandated garbage apps on it, and another device that you use for real computing.

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RegW 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have a mandatory bank or gov id app. Where are you living?

	▲	Grombobulous an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Apparently much of Europe is a strange banking dystopia. Perhaps the antiquity of the US banking system is finally coming in handy. I’ve still got my checkbook ready to go!
	▲	LtWorf an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		In sweden it's not "mandatory" in the sense that it's illegal not to have it. It's just really really complicated to live without. Many services won't work at all.

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throwburn202605 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Might be worth trying to get your gov to pin down the number of users or process to get gov id supported on any new platform.

They likely wont specify 100k people or 10% of population or whatever email/petition but it at least records the requirement that other OSes exist and requires a process to support

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axus 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't use bank or gov id apps, why are these mandatory? Country-specific?

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goldenarm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I switched banks and made sure it doesn't require Android/iOS. Many banks propose FIDO2 + SMS, even bank of america does.

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mrsssnake an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Weird definition of useless.

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hypfer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's also FuriOS with the FuriPhone.

That's debian based with gnome and seems to be built by capable people. Also, it can run android apps.

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armadyl an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All of which have beyond horrific security. GrapheneOS is the only acceptable alternative from mainstream Android.

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einpoklum 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Which phones are supported by which of these operating systems? And can you provide some relevant links?