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The Age of Personalized Hardware Is Coming(geastack.com)
33 points by arbayi 4 days ago | 19 comments
mapontosevenths 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think people have realized it yet, but AI can do hardware too. That's what I had hoped this was about.

I had Claude design an entire 4 layer rp2040 based PCB from scratch and PCBWay build it. It worked on the first go, other than some silkscreen overlapped, which doesn't hurt anything. That was before Fable.

Then I had it design a case for the new pcb to 3d print. Also worked the first go, but with minor cosmetic issues.

People have yet to even BEGIN to appreciate what these things can do with the right harness.

Foobar8568 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

My attempt at VHDL was a failure but at least it helped me to get a modern build on a Sockit.

But that was a few months ago, getting high hope with fable and seeing killed before I could even try it for that project killed all my motivations.

ynac 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Witness. I've built three small projects from idea to pilot runs with Ai. Some parts of the process I had some solid experience with, and other parts I was holding the hand of my Ai and hoping he was sober and benevolent. I often had laughing fits of glee when things worked AND I understood them. As good as Ai is at just doing stuff, it's better at explaining and teaching. The back and forth made all the projects better, cheaper, tougher, and ultimately more usable.

arjie an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What do you to get the case? I use build123d with Python and the results are pretty good!

javchz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Im surprised by how bad LLMs are with SVGs but somehow are oke-ish with CAD and other weird files.

utopiah an hour ago | parent [-]

For circuits then can be simulated. They have a of constraints that might make the problem space a lot smaller. Maybe there are also a lot of text on what makes a good design.

I also believe most design related to a physical object have documentation justifying the choices.

CamperBob2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What harness have you been using for EDA/CAD stuff?

hakfoo 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The keyboard enthusiasts got to "personalized hardware" pretty early, so there might be some lessons there.

There's a whole continuum from "Buy an off the shelf unit" to "here's a barebones case you can slide ready made switches and caps into" to "mix and match custom PCBs and cases" to designing your own PCBs and/or cases. There are pretty clear pipelines and even some levels of tooling for "draw up the layout you want and get a bunch of files you can send to production houses"

Takeaway 1: A lot of this is grounded in economic realities. I did the full bespoke route (custom PCB, custom 3-D printed case) and figured it probably cost me about $500 all inclusive to get what I wanted, and that's honestly a lot of money for a keyboard.

AI won't solve any of the economic problems. They can't fix "the minimum PCB order is N units, so now you have a drawer full of spares you paid for". They can't make the expensive part you needed cheaper, especially if you're an individual buying quantity of 1/5/10 instead of an OEM buying reels and containers-full. They can't change the fact that a case for a large widget will be expensive to mill/3-D print/mould/etc.

Takeaway 2: Customers may have surprisingly limited imagination for bespoke gear. There are galleries (and even coffee-table books) full of exotic keyboards. But Micro Center is full of $50 interchangeable "tenkeyless with RGB lighting" boards; throwing on a random set of "custom" keycaps, and that's enough for a large part of the audience.

Will these customers want or benefit from more tools, or will it just give them rope to hang themselves on and give them an excuse to bail out of the purchase entirely? Even if you can provide them a gallery of vetted turnkey choices, there might be more choice paralysis than actual benefit.

Takeaway 3: Hardware is forever (relative to software). You have a lot of small firms and group-buy products that disappeared and now the owners can't get an exact replacement or repairs. Conversely, Unicomp can gut and rebuild a 1986 Model M with new innards in large part because they've been selling the same basic design since a 386DX/16 cost as much as a Toyota Tercel.

If your AI spawns a galaxy of 1-of-1 bespoke products, who services and supports them? That seems like it's only going to appeal to the enthusiast-hacker type who can keep them alive themselves, who is least likely to need AI help designing them. Design for disposability isn't a great look for anything but incredibly low-cost, limited-usecase items.

zkmon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While personalization is definitely the trend, I don't think people are going to build code just to personalize. A tiny few of all who bought the device could do that. A few more could flash the device with some open firmware that gives more features and personalization and most will stick with the range of the personalization provided by the vendor.

For the most people, the risks outweigh the desire for tinkering. Personalization will grow right at the vendor offering, not in the hands of customer. People don't even have the time to cook their own recipes. People have their own chores to worry about. I'm talking about bulk of the customer base, not the geeks.

willtemperley 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Personalization will grow right at the vendor offering

I think so. There will be a short period, like now, where many will attempt to build their own products and the five good ideas out of five thousand will be incorporated into products built by those who know what they’re doing.

An absolutely technophobic friend asked me what agentic AI was today. I think Charlie Munger said “When even your barber is talking about it, sell and run”

Arainach 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd include the geeks in that.

I've been programming computers and tinkering with all sorts of hardware for more than 30 years. I first used FreeBSD in.....2001? and Linux not long after that. I've programmed OS code, I've grudgingly written VHDL, I've assembled a sound card for the Apple II I still have running - all this to say that I believe I'm in your tiny few.

And I'm so tired. Tired of having to debug all the things. Tired of having to pay attention to them. Tired of setting them up "just once" and then months later having to reverse engineer my own work because something failed.

So I don't. I leave nearly all my devices stock. I run Windows because I'm sick of debugging device driver issues. And I don't want personalized hardware with any electronics in it (bespoke wooden objects, those I love and make).

Losenok an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do agree that hardware gap starts to shrink, similarly to what Software gap once used to be. It is much easier to avoid spending time loading the right drivers and looking up what error message on that tiny device you are working on means. Especially if AI could run in terminal itself.

I tried building a health device few years ago and got completely lost in how to setup camera and touch display with a raspberry PI. Would imagine, with AI running in a command line, it would be much easier.

pugio an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AI + hardware has really helped my wife and I get more sleep.

I had an esp32-box-3 lying around from a lapsed "voice agent" project from a year or two ago. Had a baby. Baby moved to another room, sleep trained. Baby either: 1. wakes up a few times a night, babbles for a bit, goes back to sleep OR 2. baby wakes up and fusses for N (=10) minutes, at which point parents need to go in and settle (that's the sleep training routine we use).

In either case, we do NOT want to wake up every time the baby does. Baby can go back to sleep easily, we adults have a harder time. A few rounds with Claude and the esp32 is now our new baby monitor. It tracks cry/fuss duration and publishes an audio stream (via a web UI or direct with, say, VLC). The audio only comes through AFTER N minutes of fussing have elapsed. It also posts notifications (to ntfy) after 30s and N minutes. My log says baby often wakes up 1-2 times a night and resettles almost immediately. We only wake up if the audio comes through, after N (10) minutes.

Also during the day it's really handy to be notified when baby has woken up from her nap. Let's us be out of the house, or in a distant room, and still keep track of what's going on.

It's fun to keep improving and adding features to this. Never would have had the time/energy to get this done without a coding agent. I ordered a set of 10 more of the esp32-box-3s to give them out to my friends (well, some are for other projects... so much potential).

(EDIT: Yes, I know this isn't AI designing hardware, but even writing code for embedded off the shelf stuff feels like a huge new potential.)

Abishek_Muthian 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

With hardware/computers becoming locked, thin clients and unaffordable we're already forced to customize our devices cyber punk style.

You're lucky if you're in a region where these open-hardware companies sell their wares, even though many of them will go under in the current market.

phendrenad2 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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sasaf5 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"So the interesting question isn't whether personal hardware is coming. It's who gets to write the software that runs on it."

It's not that I don't like your point of view. It's that I can't stand AI slop.

dominotw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

well my phone can do almost everything

tejtm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

anything but be owned by you

yjftsjthsd-h 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, by reasonable definitions that's doable too. My phone runs an OS I chose, that I have admin access on, that runs any app I tell it to run. And, y'know, it's my property that I bought with my own money, but that's probably aside your argument.