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foxrider 7 hours ago

This would be the line for me. If at some point I'm unable to build an .apk and install it on my phone without Google letting me, I'm moving to Huawei.

aerzen 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Does Huawei not use android or Google play services?

animuchan 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's Android but without Google's services, there's an alternative app store.

The irony of Chinese vendors providing a breath of fresh low-DRM air.

aerzen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It seems like China is becoming the "freedom superpower" while USA is getting "corporate superpower" vibes. Huh

pjmlp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Partially true, HarmonyOS NEXT is its own thing, with a Typescript based language ArkTS.

https://developer.huawei.com/consumer/en/arkts/

And now they are adding yet another one, AOT compiled, Cangjie

https://cangjie-lang.cn/en

Using Android fork has been a transition step.

animuchan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Neat, thanks for this correction! Interesting, an entire new programming language.

pjmlp 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And a microkernel based OS with capabilities.

Another example that microkernels actually do have market share.

Aachen 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Low DRM? I looked at Huawei devices because I figured they'd have to sell them here super cheap because of this downside most Europeans people will even see as a showstopper ("how will I install my precious WhatsApp??"), but

- they're among the most expensive (I could afford that if needed though)

- they don't allow hardware unlock (ehh.. what's the point, then, if I get a locked-down device with Chinese surprises!)

animuchan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

OK yeah I didn't know they stopped allowing to root. Normal levels of DRM then, my mistake, you're right.

tsimionescu 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, Google is barred from providing any services to them by the US government.

koolala 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

not like that no, some US carriers don't allow them though like AT&T blocks you to google or apple phones. for them only pixel supports a way out with graphene.

foxrider 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, they use AppGallery and HMS.