| ▲ | rayiner 21 hours ago | |
You're ignoring the context of the point--it's not about "bragging." We were discussing the quote above that someone is "disenfranchised" by adhering to the original meaning of the constitution "roughly in proportion to how much they share in common with" "white men." But following that logic to its conclusion leads to absurd results. By that logic, non-white people would have been less "disenfranchised" if the constitution had been written by people who matched their skin color. But, in fact, that's not true! Slavery was abolished in Africa by force by the British Empire, or else in the 20th century due to international pressure. Those societies never developed large-scale indigenous movements to abolish slavery. So if you were an enslaved person in America, you would have been worse off if the constitution had been written by people from your country of origin! Your best-case scenario would have been to have more of the colonies be populated by Puritans and Quakers, who ultimately proved willing to kill other British people to end the practice of slavery. But Puritans and Quakers were "white" too! The point is that principles transcend race, and focusing on skin color similarity with the founders (or lack thereof) is sophomoric. The constitution was written by "white" men, but the people living under it today are the spiritual and cultural descendants of those men--even the ones who superficially resemble the African and Middle Eastern counterparts of the American founders. | ||
| ▲ | triceratops 9 hours ago | parent [-] | |
I didn't really follow the long discussion thread y'all were having. I just dislike Civil War revisionism and interjected with a correction. For me, the British Empire's battle against the Atlantic Slave trade is a worthier example of Western (and especially Anglo) abolition efforts than your example of the American Civil War. | ||