| ▲ | anilgulecha 9 hours ago |
| I understand the frustration (I'm an avid fdroid user across many many devices). But this article comes off as childish with the virus/trojan/"malware vendor". With such an article, many (including perhaps google) get the ammo to disregard what fdroid says, by branding them as childish/not to be taken seriously. for eg: no reputable news org is going to post this. PS: https://keepandroidopen.org/ is better done. |
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| ▲ | econ 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I thought the same thing but he apparently has a point. The stated purpose covers only a tiny sliver of the capabilities. The agreement points to the TOS where it (last time I looked) says service may be terminated at any time without stating a reason. Nothing guarantees it won't be used for things other than security. And finally he has a point where it also doesn't really do much for security. If we ask their fine search engine, the AI helpfully explains malware to be software designed to gain unauthorized access to disrupt, extort payments and/or hijack devices. If you still think the shoe doesn't fit, imagine what would happen if one managed to create an app with the same capabilities. Google would remove it immediately for being malware. Obvious malware. |
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| ▲ | r_lee 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd usually say it'd be far fetched but I can totally see Google banning developers and removing their apps for political reasons, where some lobbying group bombs them with emails because with this they're explicitly saying they're now choosing who gets to be in or out, there's no way for them to say we can't do anything about it I do think this would improve security, but I also think it's sort of a Trojan horse to lock down the ecosystem | | | |
| ▲ | stingraycharles 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Isn’t Google going to do what Apple has been doing since forever? Or is Google somehow doing something worse? | | |
| ▲ | RobotToaster 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I bought an android instead of an apple because I didn't want the kind of malware apple has always shipped with idevices | |
| ▲ | jb282 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Apple's policies were established when you purchased the phone. Apps come through registered developers and their vetting. Google has changed the game on something you already own. I'm sure their lawyers have done their homework, but in some jurisdictions this is certainly actionable. | | |
| ▲ | someonebaggy 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | They already lost a lawsuit and were fined a hundred billion dollars in the EU for locking down Android. Maybe they think since they already lost once, they can't lose again. | | |
| ▲ | hurfdurf 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Hundred billion would be a quarter's revenue, that can't be right. The lasest I've read is a threat of a fine of around 500mil wrt app store issues back in December, but nothing has been decided yet. | |
| ▲ | r_lee 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | hundred billion? |
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| ▲ | nok22kon 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | nothing guarantees the Microsoft/Apple/Ubuntu/RedHat will not push an update through their infrastructure to delete some software from your computer all OSes have malware level capabilities. it's literally the definition of an OS | | |
| ▲ | kuschku 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Ubuntu/RedHat That still wouldn't affect projects like Debian or Arch, but going even further, they can't push through updates anyway. Nothing forces me to install updates, it's an active choice to do so. |
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| ▲ | 0x53 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the point they are trying to make is that in the terms of service Google says they get to define what is malware (halfway through article) so the author is trying to point out that exact danger: what happens when Google gets to randomly call things malware. |
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| ▲ | PufPufPuf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The article provides enough evidence for that label. Unlike Google, who can arbitrarily call anything "malware". This is the contrast the article attempts to point out. |
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| ▲ | realusername 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I have the opposite opinion, Google is doing a lot of garbage in the name of "Security", time to play their game and report their control on Android as security vulnerability |