It's a false trade off because without vaccines, the kids that would have died from vaccines are still in danger!

▲ logifail an hour ago | parent [-]

> the kids that would have died from vaccines are still in danger

Except that we knew by May 2020 (possibly even earlier) that the data showed that the young and otherwise healthy were at extraordinarily low risk from Covid.

I still recall a conversation with child#2 after one of his school friends was at home quarantining after testing positive for Covid.

I asked my son if he knew if his friend was feeling better...

"Daddy, he's not poorly, he's just got Covid".

▲ teamonkey an hour ago | parent [-]

Kids spread the virus, whether they’re at risk of dying or not. Vaccines reduce the chance of them spreading it by reducing the symptoms and the time that they they’re infectious.

The main benefit of vaccines is that they reduce the transmission of disease. This aspect saves more lives than individual protection.

▲ logifail 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Vaccines reduce the chance of them spreading it [..]

"Citation needed"...

Covid vaccination did not reliably or durably block SARS-CoV-2 transmission, especially after Omicron and as immunity waned.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39971395/

  The overall VE [Vaccine Effectiveness] of the complete primary series against infection with any SARS-CoV-2 variant was 70.7%. VE was lower for Omicron, at 26.1%, than for pre-Omicron strains, at 77.0%. Over time, VE against infection by any variant decreased from 68.9% to 38.9% after 6 months.

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defrost 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Leaving aside the linked study is looking at vaccine effectiveness WRT infection rather than transmission, ...

Low effectiveness still agrees with the point made above about reducing chances of spread and transmission.

A reduction is still a reduction, even if is not a 100% total and full stop.

	▲	logifail 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> A reduction is still a reduction, even if is not a 100% total and full stop The advice I was given from our family doctor was that having had an utterly mild case of (actual) Covid, as I had (two separate times!), during the pandemic, was significantly better in protecting against both future infection - and subsequent transmission - than any protection I could have gained by vaccination. YMMV. I suspect this is down to those who have had mild Covid pre-vaccination and those who have not. Some of us didn't even know we had had Covid until afterwards, others think the vaccine saved them from an untimely death/hospitalisation.