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doginasuit 6 hours ago

I'm not sure this information will sway very many people. I have relatives who are all getting tested for t-cell counts related to mRNA because they are convinced they are the cause of any and all health problems they are facing. It seems like the medical professionals who are administering the tests are at least somewhat responsible for their misapplication.

tomesco 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Information won’t sway someone who’s views aren’t based on information.

binarycrusader 5 hours ago | parent [-]

What’s the saying?

You cannot reason a person out of a position they did not reason themself into in the first place.

Schiendelman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not about swaying individuals. Let people believe their stupid stuff.

It's about swaying investors and regulators. And yeah, we need to make sure we excise our regulators of crazy people, but that's cyclic. And next cycle, we'll get vaccines for a lot more.

doginasuit 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Point taken, but it isn't just a matter of individuals, it is a popular movement that has captured a significant part of role of regulators. The research is still valuable, but its lack of influence is not a problem that is safe to dismiss.

idiotsecant 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It matters over time. The old kooks die off and are replaced with people who are relatively sane until they find new things to be old kooks about.

cmrdporcupine 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately a large number of the "kooks" are GenX and younger.

epistasis 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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javea71 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think you'll find there's a rational distrust in big pharma

epistasis 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think I'll find that, after investigating the claims I have heard.

babypuncher 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Two things can be true: Big Pharma can be evil, and their products are much better vetted for safety and efficacy than random peptides sourced form mystery factories.

mullingitover 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Venn diagram of people who distrust big pharma and the people who uncritically trust the far larger “wellness” industry is a circle.

vlian2088 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

and do you really think a significant percentage of forced vaccination detractors are taking mystery peptides? have there been studies, or are you vibing this guess off snarky reddit comments?

ianm218 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Anecdotally I know several people who would fall in the camp of anti vax but openly use peptides.

And intuitively it makes sense we’re talking about groups of people who are skeptical of main stream institutional health recommendations but trust specific personal sources for medical advice.

I’m vibing but it feels like there is a pretty clear intersection of peptides and the fringe science health community no?

quotemstr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nobody's used state power to mandate peptides and social media censorship to reports of adverse effects.

As many of us said at the time, the mandates weren't worth the destruction of public trust, especially because the vaccine wasn't even sterilizing.

The next time there's a crisis, resist the urge to use the government to achieve outcomes by brute force. It doesn't work and has generational adverse consequences.

RandomLensman 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How should the US have pursued WWII if government force weren't an option?

idiotsecant 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I can't even have this argument again. It's exhausting.

api 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“I won’t put chemicals from big pharma in my body!”

Proceeds to raw dog a bunch of “research chemicals” cause some roided up bro talked about it on a podcast…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U7gbFMWZWlo

They’re not vaccines though.

alex1138 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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doginasuit 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well cited doesn't mean very much outside of the context of peer reviewed work.

This book pushes Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine as "miracle cures", thanks to that idea my relatives also have a stockpile of both.

LastTrain 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a simple rule. If a person spews complete bullshit I no longer trust them.

epistasis 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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manwe150 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Having read it, he does cite something for almost every claim. Although almost every source also contradicts his conclusions on some basic, logical, statistical, mathematical, or humane level, if you bother to fact check them. So it’s quite hard to quantify what it means to say it has good citations.

lettergram 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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shakna 5 hours ago | parent [-]

RFK's reliance on terrain theory, disproved continually since some five hundred years ago, does much to assist in citations - it is common to cite bad science as evidence where we need to improve public comprehension.

alex1138 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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dang 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly. If you keep this up, we will ban you. We already asked you to stop this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46534572.

There are, unfortunately, many examples of your doing this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47756136 (April 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47745846 (April 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47053228 (Feb 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46755775 (Jan 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46605417 (Jan 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46522898 (Jan 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45988414 (Nov 2025)

This is not a comment about any of your views on vaccines or anything else. But you can't post like this regardless of what your view is on any topic.

Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.

Sabinus 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't approve of the downvoting and flagging, if there's anywhere on the internet that conspiracy ideas can be constructively pushed back on it should be here.

That being said you're not making very detailed defences of RFK's book and ideas. Can you be more specific on some ideas or claims from his book that you believe in and how they're supported?

steve-atx-7600 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Science-schmiance”

vlian2088 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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