| ▲ | The Vespa at 80: Why the Italian scooter remains the coolest thing on 2 wheels(cbc.ca) |
| 40 points by cf100clunk 3 days ago | 32 comments |
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| ▲ | amarcheschi a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] |
| Piaggio also designed a car, which unfortunately wasn't sold in italy due to a gentleman's agreement with fiat (fiat being much bigger basically went if you start selling cars, we'll build motorcycles). The English Wikipedia doesn't include this snippet of history, the Italian page does though https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACMA_Vespa_400 |
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| ▲ | esperent an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I like Vespas, they're very stylish, but damn they are noisy, and not a nice rumble either but more like a very loud chainsaw. They give off a terrible amount of smoke compared more modern scooters too. I do often wonder why so few other new small motorcycles or scooters have similarly beautiful designs though. However, for me, having lived in a country with a motorbike culture for the last decade, the coolest thing on two wheels is electric scooters. So much torque, range nearly equal to same sized gas scooters, and no pollution of the noise or smoke variety. It makes such a difference when everyone is zipping around on these quiet, non-stinking scooters. That's cool. Now it just needs someone to make an electric scooter design as iconic as a Vespa. |
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| ▲ | weberer 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It sounds like you're describing a 2-stroke engine, which older Vespas did use. But modern ones use a 4-stroke engine and should have the same emissions profile as any other motorcycle. | |
| ▲ | nsbk 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My brother and I restored my dad’s ‘64 Vespa 150S and the thing is extremely loud! It is very smelly as well as it’s a two stroke engine, but I don’t mind that at all. Quite the opposite | |
| ▲ | GenerWork 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are you thinking of older Vespas? There's a few modern ones near me and they've never struck me as overly noisy. |
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| ▲ | timonoko an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The horror that was aluminium engine. You could open and close a screw only twice and goodbye threads. |
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| ▲ | derefr 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The trade-off being (I'm guessing) that those threads would be pretty easy to re-tap by hand? |
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| ▲ | amelius 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The coolest thing if you're not behind them inhaling their exhaust fumes. |
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| ▲ | Lio 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Timeless iconic Italian design. I'm surprised that the article didn't mention the role Vespa (and Lambretta) played in the British Mod scene. You can see it's influence in the RAF roundel stickers on bikes in the article. For anyone interested Quadrophenia is still a fun introduction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrophenia_(film) |
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| ▲ | xnx an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Iconic design, but way too noisy and dirty. Article doesn't mention "electric" once. |
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| ▲ | nxpnsv an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The electric range of Vespas are using the same iconic design. | |
| ▲ | tiew9Vii 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Are you talking about a 1950’s Vespa or a 2026 Vespa? A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km and Euro 5 means noise is quiet. As far as things go, modern scooters are great, practical, economical vehicles. | |
| ▲ | shrubble an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Taylor Swift just used how many tons to get married? | | |
| ▲ | gambiting an hour ago | parent [-] | | And that's relevant how? If you live in a city where everyone owns a petrol scooter it's absurd. Can't wait for all of these to be electric, it's just common sense. | | |
| ▲ | mdp2021 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | When electric will be equally practical (recharge time, mileage) and accessible (we do not have electronic money). And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs. | | |
| ▲ | esrauch 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | What noise pollution do you hear from electric? You mean the noise cars make when they are backing up or what? | |
| ▲ | wffurr 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs. What are you talking about? The electric ones are significantly quieter. | |
| ▲ | gambiting 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | >>And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs. Is this some kind of trolling? >>accessible (we do not have electronic money). And is this some kind of joke? An electric scooter can be plugged into a solar panel and recharged within a day. For free. Even if every oil refinery on earth explodes you will be able to charge your electric scooter by the wonderful power of the sun. Unless you mean the cost to purchase - have you seen the cost of a new Vespa? You can have two electric scooters for the price of a new Vespa. And electric scooters have long ago matched needs of city users in terms of range. Recharge time isn't as fast as petrol, sure, but people tend not to drive scooters for 500 miles in a day. You drive it to work, drive it back, plug it in. Or charge during the day using solar. Or you know, for really crazy sci-fi ideas just look at china, where electric scooters with swappable batteries are extremely common. Even if you work as a food delivery driver you can have a fresh fully charged battery in less time than it would take you to fill up with petrol. |
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| ▲ | pjmlp an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe because not everyone cares, while the planet gets destroyed with wars, private jets and AI centers? | | |
| ▲ | otabdeveloper4 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Noise pollution is a different issue than "saving the planet". | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp an hour ago | parent [-] | | That is only an issue when driving 50cc and applies to all of them, regardless of which kind of motorbike. Or those that love "tuning" taking the noise filters out of the escapes. | | |
| ▲ | stefan_ 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yes, all of them are terrible and should have ceased to exist 10 years ago? Now is just the next best time. It won’t save the industry addicted to them of course, China has long gotten rid of them. | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Well, everything is doable when following the same kind of government based "education". Also lets ignore drilling the planet for rare minerals in the process, that China owns. |
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| ▲ | akmiller 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| …and here I am a dumb American tourist who knew nothing about Vespa’s and was just upset because I couldn’t get my uber and missed my train. Now I want one! |
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| ▲ | jgalt212 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cheryl Tunt: "Mopeds are fun, but you don't want your buddies to see you riding one." |
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| ▲ | TacticalCoder 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ah ah my youth! I had a Vespa with a 200cc engine, three speeds, from the 80s: this thing would do a wheelie in 1st gear. And very hard to control wheelie for the weight is uneven on a Vespa. My brother had a rare Vespa 125 cc from 1961 or something: when he left the country he sold it to a friend who still owns it. Another friend of mine --the reason we all had Vespa back then-- could disassemble and reassemble them with his eyes closed, including the engine. We'd go to flea markets and garage sales around the country looking for Vespa, Lambrettas and even french Solex for sale. Best find was not a Vespa though but a real Honda Monkey Z50. One day I forgot to put oil in a Vespa and the engine just froze: cylinder expanded in the piston and rear-wheel locked in place. Somehow I didn't crash. I put oil (you typically had oil with you, in a tiny trunk), waited for the thing to cool down: it just started back up (!). These were the days, thanks for posting that on HN. P.S: it's really sad we cannot have nice things posted without having the majority of comments being from environmental-jihadists : ( |
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| ▲ | kalessin an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Thanks I hate it, extremely noisy and dirty. I really wish the brand dies with fossil fuels. |
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| ▲ | fooblaster an hour ago | parent [-] | | Thankfully all this stuff has been or is being killed by ebikes and escooters which are vastly better technology. | | |
| ▲ | kenty 33 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I hate to say it but good riddance! OK to keep as a classic icon for everything on the road but definitely not something that I would want to continue being popular. | | |
| ▲ | wffurr 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Keep the body shell, modernize the internals. I think they have already done so... | | |
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