But in this case it was Microsoft who forced him to upgrade, wasn't it?

Depends on the point of view, as it is Apple not supporting that MacBook anymore, and Microsoft could have a point in not supporting macOS versions that Apple doesn't want to support anymore. You could even argue that he forced the update on himself, since the web version still worked. The point remains that somehow without upgrading the hardware some software he uses everyday doesn't work anymore.

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carlosjobim 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I would put it squarely on Microsoft in this case. They decided to make their software not function anymore. Why not let older Teams clients still function and communicate with the newer?

Apple still pushes updates and security updates to OS versions which are not the latest. So I don't see how they can be blamed much here.

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GTP 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure he's still receiving security updates, as the MacBook in question is from ~2015. But, if this is the case, then you would have a point.

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carlosjobim 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That's over 10 years of service. But if it's a Pro, then the latest OS officially supported is Monterey, which received its last update in 2024. So I would consider that very fair of Apple, even impressive.

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GTP 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It is fair if you compare Apple with other manufacturers, but it is still unfair in absolute terms. The hardware still works, and the work they're doing to support other models would let macOS work on that laptop as well, as proven by tools that let you do the upgrade unofficially.

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cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Eh, with prebuilt PCs it’s muddy because the bulk of heavy lifting is done by Microsoft, not the manufacturer. It’s not unusual at all to pull up the firmware/drivers/etc page for a random laptop and find that updates stopped rolling out about 2 years after its introduction to the market, despite Reddit and similar being filled with reports of firmware bugs for that particular model.

	▲	GTP 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fair point, but I think the lack of those updates impacts the average consumer much less than lack of OS updates.