The founder of asahi linux famously quit due to how hard it was to upstream patches. It’s not easy to deal with linus’ project.

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Grombobulous 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I can’t see that being a bad thing considering that the kernel is mandatory software in the Linux world. You would want to have high standards for what gets added.

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nosioptar 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You should have high standards.

Torvalds often crosses that line into outright toxicity. I've written a few kernel patches that I never tried to upstream for that reason.

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dandellion 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You'll never be able to agree on where that line should go. First because there's a cultural component to it. I'm from Spain so I can only talk for myself, but while he uses rude language, nothing I've ever read from him ever seemed particularly offensive. And second because any activity involving a large group of people will need some amount of toxicity if only to prevent other toxic people from derailing it, and since nobody thinks of themselves as the one that is being toxic to the project, there will always be some friction. You might not like fevers either, but they are necessary for a functioning immune system.

	▲	nosioptar an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		What a ridiculous comment. Here's a small sample of Torvalds being an ass. https://github.com/corollari/linusrants/blob/master/table.md Someone who doesnt see a problem with this is probably one of those toxic people who dont realize they're toxic you mentioned. Nobody wants to be treated how Torvalds treated people. Also, coming from an orchestral background, I'm well aware of situations where the leader needs to be gruff. A gentle conductor will never get the idiot violists playing in tune. (A harsh one won't either, but at least the violists will be too scared to make any noise.) That said, it's still unacceptable for a conductor to cross the line from gruff to personal attacks.
	▲	debugnik 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> nothing I've ever read from him ever seemed particularly offensive You may have missed the "retroactively aborted" one. https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/6/495 To be fair, he's got much more self-control now.

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gjvc 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Disgusting" Linux sched_ext Source Code Restructured Following Complaint By Linus Torvalds - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Sched-Ext-Restructured