| ▲ | jimbo808 3 hours ago |
| They're actively trying to use lobbying power to make open weight models illegal. So I'm just not going to use their services at all anymore. I don't think they're a net gain if you're a skilled senior, and the hidden cost in terms of technical debt and skill atrophy is just being swept under the rug. I'll be okay without their bullshit generator. |
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| ▲ | anonzzzies an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sure about Dario (and all billionaire) weirdness, but no gains if you are a skilled senior is well, very far out in our experience (our company is 30 years old with mostly the original employees and founders): what we deliver now at the speed and quality we deliver it would have been impossible 10 years ago with our team size of skilled seniors. We replaced all the commercial products our clients and ourselves used with our own, giving us millions more revenue and profit with the upselling and efficiency benefits. We work for regulated clients: our code is reviewed, pentested and audited regularly by us and 3rd parties so its not slop either. You are definitely leaving money on the table. We do mostly use chinese models on our own hardware (we colocate cages of racks) so this is not about Anthropic but about AI in general. Skill athrophy is a real thing though; we try to prevent this by have hackethons (for lack of a better word) without AI where I pick something extremely non trivial and we implement it for fun and profit without AI (with would not matter much as they are currently bad at these things); last one was flex paxos for our in house db with obvious metrics for the endresult: data integrity (duh) under failure and performance better or at least the same as our raft production version. |
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| ▲ | andyroid 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > We replaced all the commercial products our clients and ourselves used with our own You’ll never guess what product your clients are looking to replace with their own next. | | |
| ▲ | anonzzzies 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Sure, that is why you need to be early. I fully believe my company won't make it another 30 years (or 10), so we prepare for that. Also, I will be dead by then, but that is unrelated. For now everyone is still sufficiently crap at using AI to need help. We had enough clients trying to build something themselves and then come crying to us. | |
| ▲ | hughw 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure but in the intervening 2 years there's money to be made. |
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| ▲ | mastazi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| good luck actually enforcing that. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > They're actively trying to use lobbying power to make open weight models illegal. What is your evidence? |
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| ▲ | Robdel12 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Dario’s own mouth https://x.com/coinbureau/status/2071330294452666695/mediavie... | | |
| ▲ | anon373839 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | He has also been telling bald-faced lies about open source/open weights models that are easily disproved. For example, he claimed that they lack the collaborative benefits of open source because "we can't see inside the model". Open weights models are responsible for enabling reams of research on interpretability methods that do just that. And they have facilitated so much collaboration on architecture, inference optimizations, training and steering methods, and other topics that were completely out of reach with closed models like Anthropic's. It's really staggering to me. | |
| ▲ | ta93754829 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | that link doesn't exist anymore? what did it say? | | | |
| ▲ | jquery an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeesh. “What shall we do sire, when the peasants learn to read?” vibes | | |
| ▲ | entropicdrifter 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You mean to tell me that anyone can own a nail-gun? We can't have people buying their own nail-guns, next thing you know they might build things that aren't up to code! |
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| ▲ | jimbo808 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2023-07-26_-_...
https://xcancel.com/coinbureau/status/2071330294452666695
https://www.techpolicy.press/transcript-senate-hearing-on-pr... > "Once the weights of a model are public, they cannot be retrieved. If a model possesses dangerous capabilities, it is permanently out in the wild... We need to consider regulatory frameworks that account for the unique risks of open-source distribution of highly capable frontier models." | | |
| ▲ | TurdF3rguson an hour ago | parent [-] | | That's true I guess. If someone decides a model needs more guard rails, anthropic can adjust it, whereas with open weights it's too late. It definitely sounds like the kind of thing that ends the world in B sci-fi thrillers. |
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