| ▲ | jatora 8 hours ago |
| I find these nefarious intention theories shallow. It can both be the case that the endstate is them owning the means of production without that being the intended guiding goal. Companies can chase profit without being Leninistic boogeymen. |
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| ▲ | WhyIsItAlwaysHN 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There is no nefariousness in owning all the means of production, it's the endgame of maximizing profit. However the result is exactly the same, concentration of power. |
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| ▲ | pigpop 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is such a defeatist and low agency take. "means of production" are not a limited resource like gold that you have to extract from natural sources or divvy up. They are fundamentally skill and knowledge that anyone can attain and put to use, maybe not on the same scale as a well funded business but even those businesses had to start somewhere in order to grow to the size they are now. So rather than casting aspersions on them, your time would be better spent learning how you too can create some means of production and start producing value. | | | |
| ▲ | popalchemist 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No nefariousness other than the subjugation of the majority of humanity? You're insane | | |
| ▲ | WhyIsItAlwaysHN 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | What I meant is that nefariousness from people is not a prerequisite. It's a machine that wants to maximize all profit and all the evil is a natural product. If you magically put saints in charge they would be eaten and replaced by the same kind of people very quickly if the end goal remains. |
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| ▲ | cousinbryce 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Sam Allan has said some things that would make Lenin blush |
