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| ▲ | apparent an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| No chance 3 ever passes, and a wealth tax would require an amendment unless it is "apportioned among the states" or some such thing (and it can't be because wealthy people are concentrated in a handful of states). Editing to add: It would also be a bad idea to abolish the EC because then candidates would only ever campaign in cities. They would completely ignore rural areas, which are financially and culturally different. This would not end well. Separately, it would also mean we wouldn't know who the president is until all states are done counting, and it would complicate the recount process. Both are simpler under the EC, assuming the slow states are not close calls or big enough to swing the EC count (which they usually are not). |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > It would also be a bad idea to abolish the EC because then candidates would only ever campaign in cities. They would completely ignore rural areas, which are financially and culturally different. This already happens, though. Candidates largely ignore entire states they know they can't win, as well as ones they think they will win. (Ask Hillary if she regrets not campaigning more in Wisconsin, for example.) | |
| ▲ | russdill 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The irony here is (3) is by far the closest to actually occurring as in practice, it doesn't require amending the constitution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Intersta... Of course, the SC could easily declare it unconstitutional....interpret any amendments as they see fit anyway. The decision on the 14th very nearly went the other way. | |
| ▲ | krunck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Who cares about campaigning? It's whats happens after the election that matters: Does the representative represent their constituents? That's not an electoral system issue. Each eligible voter should get one vote of equal weight to all others. The EC breaks that. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Who cares about campaigning? Electeds. Where they campaign signifies who they think they have to convince and compromise with to earn their seat. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > No chance 3 ever passes It’s honestly the hardest one on there. > a wealth tax would require an amendment Genuine question, why? > It would also be a bad idea to abolish the EC because then candidates would only ever campaign in cities This doesn’t mathematically work. Most Americans live in suburbia. (We define “urban” very, very broadly for statistical purposes.) And this effect is more than compensated for by the existence of the Senate and even House. > it would complicate the recount process No messier than now. And you’d only be delayed in close elections, in which case carefully recounting everywhere is fine. | | |
| ▲ | nickff 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | >”Genuine question, why?” A wealth tax would clearly be a ‘direct tax’, which must be apportioned among the states according to the constitution. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Eh, this is debated. (Moore.) It could be written as an excise tax, too, push come to shove. | | |
| ▲ | nickff 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Capital gains are permissible because of the 16th amendment; the 16A does not permit the congress to tax assets. It seems like quite a stretch to apply Moore to cash holdings. | | |
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| ▲ | jandrewrogers 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The 16th amendment plainly restricts taxation to income. Same reason there isn't a Federal sales tax or property tax. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | No, the 16th Amendment expands taxation to income; there was some dispute at the time over its legality. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollock_v._Farmers%27_Loan_%26....) Article I establishes's Congress's fairly broad taxing powers. > The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/sales_tax > The federal government has not enacted a national sales tax, although it has the constitutional authority to do so under Article I, Section 8. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are federal capital-gains taxes. (I’d be fine with just treating wealth gains for anyone with more than $100mm as income, too.) |
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| ▲ | ncallaway 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree with everything, other than the two caveats below: > Strike pardon power; I'd go slightly narrower. I think pardons and clemency are a good thing to have in the system. I think we can put reasonable guardrails around it - Require pardons to be published to a public register to be effective
- Allow a 2/3 vote of both chambers of congress to veto a pardon within 90 days
- Disallow pardons in the final year of the term
- Explicitly affirm that Congress can make bribery and other forms of direct/indirect quid-pro-quos for a pardon illegal > Congress may create independent agencies with charters of up to 25 years. I think we should also create room for Congress to create rule-making agencies that exist within the Congressional branch. |
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| ▲ | twobitshifter 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If we keep pardons, no reason to give that power to the executive branch at all. | |
| ▲ | popalchemist 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | These are all great ideas. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > pardons and clemency are a good thing to have in the system Congress can do it any time. The fact that it will probably result in a statute change, too, versus a one-off benefit, is a feature of that process. I debated this for a while, myself. Kept creating carve-outs. But at the end of the day, pardons are a shitty and ineffective check on either the judiciary or criminal statute, and they have been known to be a potential source of corruption since at least the Roman Republic, which denied this power even to their dictators. > we should also create room for Congress to create rule-making agencies that exist within the Congressional branch Eh, I prefer independent agencies. If the Congress wants a law it can pass it. |
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| ▲ | jfengel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Constitutional amendments that can actually be passed: |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-] | | We haven’t tried in a generation. I could see pardon power and independent agencies getting through recent Congresses. (Between Biden and Trump, the former has been thoroughly abused. And the Congress likes creating independent agencies.) | | |
| ▲ | jkaplowitz 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > We haven't tried in a generation. Longer than a generation if you include the Congressional stage of the process as part of the attempt - the last time Congress sent an amendment to the states was in 1978. Yes, an amendment was ratified as recently as 1992, but that amendment was approved by Congress all the way back in 1789 (!) along with ten other amendments which we now know as the Bill of Rights and one additional amendment that has still never been (and probably won't ever be) ratified. The story of why that ended up getting ratified in 1992 is quite interesting, but it has nothing to do with how to get new amendments through Congress these days. | |
| ▲ | lovich 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Independent agencies are not getting through recent Congresses unless the Republicans party has a total collapse and the Dems simultaneously find their balls again and stop being allergic to the use of power. The removal of Humphrey’s executor was a goal of Project 2025, they are elated at this ruling. > One example includes potentially seeking the overruling of Humphrey's Exec-
utor v. United States.
62 This case approved so-called independent agencies whose
directors are not removable by the President at will. The Supreme Court has
chipped away at Humphrey's Executor in cases like Seila Law v. Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau,
63 but the precedent remains. The next conservative Adminis-
tration should formally take the position that Humphrey's Executor violates the
Constitution's separation of powers.[1] [1] https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042/project-2025... | | |
| ▲ | deaux 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > the Dems simultaneously find their balls again and stop being allergic to the use of power. If only the problem was that they don't have balls. Everything they've done, and not done, is intentional. Hence why most of them see the DSA as a bigger threat than the Reps, and the former is what's awakening some of them rather than 8 years of MAGA. |
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| ▲ | brightball 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You can’t abolish the electoral college without standardized voting across all states. A single state or even county allowing frivolous or unverified voting can swing the entire election. The EC provides a failsafe by capping the max impact of a single state in the event of an anomaly. In other words, you can’t talk about abolishing the EC without a national voter ID law. |
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| ▲ | brainwad 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This is not a problem in other western countries, so why would it be in the US? It sounds very much like post-hoc justification to me. | | | |
| ▲ | kelseyfrog 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > you can’t talk about abolishing the EC without a national voter ID law. Sure we can. We can even do it right here. I'd never let someone tell me what I can and cannot talk about. | | |
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| ▲ | superxpro12 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Throw something in there about gerrymandering. Maybe even ranked choice voting? |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Throw something in there about gerrymandering Can be done through statute. And, I’d argue, is better done there. Independent redistributing commissions? Proportional representation? Expanding the House? Combination thereof? I don’t know if we know the answer; hard coding a solution ex ante seems unnecessarily risky. | | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-] | | > Can be done through statute. And undone through statute, or SCOTUS intervention. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-] | | > And undone through statute This is generally hard. And should be possible for something as intricate as election mechanics. > or SCOTUS intervention Oh, I have lots of ideas for Court reform. Worst case, add justices. (Or, my favorite, every Supreme Court case gets a random slate of appellate judges.) | | |
| ▲ | superxpro12 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | 18 year term limits. Each president gets to pick 3, or something. I forget the specific number. Any one judge per district. Our House was supposed to scale with the population. IT only makes sense that the courts should too. There should be more than 9 given how large the population is. |
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| ▲ | bufbupa an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | if we're making a wish list, I also want: - term limits for congress - voter day national holiday - if budget isn't balanced all members of congress become ineligible for election - repeal citizens united (maybe covered by op) - and change all fines/tickets to paid in human hours of community service rather than money | | |
| ▲ | knappe 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | - if budget isn't balanced all members of congress become ineligible for election Ask Colorado how TABOR[0] is going. The answer is a 1.5 BILLION[1] deficit because TABOR restricts how money is collected and spent by the state. A balanced budget isn't actually all it is cracked up to be. The deficit spending at the federal level we have now is bonkers, but a balanced budget every year is just unrealistic. Learn from Colorado and do not put yourself into an unrealistic corner. A budget will grow and shrink with the economy -- a balanced budget over X years seems much more realistic. It would mean we could have never, at a federal level, done the kind of spending necessary to cope with COVID, for example. What I'd like to see is Congress be entirely unable to draw a paycheck while the government is shutdown. Shutdowns are a last resort, but are now so common we have normalized them. This is immensely unfair to federal workers and everything downstream that depends on a functioning government, like SNAP benefits. If the government shuts down over budget issues, make the people who made that decision pay HEAVILY for the action. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_Bill_of_Rights
[1] https://coloradosun.com/2026/03/19/colorado-budget-shortfall... | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most of this can be done through statute. I’d strongly argue against the community-service bit, however. That’s just job loss for those who earn income from labor and an inconvenience for those who earn it from capital. | | |
| ▲ | ncallaway 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yea, I think a better option would be to make fines proportional to income, and then give a flat hourly rate that you can earn for fines from community service as an option | | |
| ▲ | pasc1878 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | No that does not fix the issue. If you have capital rather than income then this is still better for you. e.g. a retiree has capital but not income and for someone like Musk will have plenty of capital but proportionally much ledd income as that will be the best way to avoid tax. |
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| ▲ | LorenPechtel 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think the ship has sailed on #4. It's simply too easy to do it overseas now. |
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| ▲ | paulddraper 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > 3. Abolish the electoral college; Many people think the EC is somehow a distinctly idiosyncrasy of the United States, but this has almost identical structure almost to the Presidential election in the European Union. The difference is that somewhere along the way, the member states of the USA lost most of their power. That hasn't yet happened to the members states of the EU. But perhaps it will? |
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| ▲ | ecshafer 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Other than 4 I disagree whole heartedly. The worst part of the Fed government might be the Federal Reserve (abolish the fed), which would be like your 5. Electoral college is an important step to relegating the power of the masses. Pardon should be clarified in scope but not removed, Bidens indefinite pardons for any possible crimes was absurd. |
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| ▲ | lovich 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | lol, abolish the fed and only complain about Biden’s pardons. I thought I was the most the openly partisan person on this forum but apparently I have competition. |
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| ▲ | Detrytus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > 4. Congress may regulate money in politics; This one is completely useless. Congress may regulate, but why would they? They directly benefit from more money in politics. If anything this should be more direct, and read: "Political donations may only come from individual US citizens, and cannot exceed the amount of monthly minimum wage per person, per year". Or maybe just add a field in the tax return form where anyone can name a party to receive some fixed amount donation, subtracted from person's taxes. |
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| ▲ | moduspol 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Campaigns already have strong limits. They get around it by giving money to PACs, which can spend money opposing other candidates or talking about issues in particular. Should there be limits on spending on messaging opposing a certain candidate? Or supporting / opposing a specific policy? It's going to be pretty tough to draw a line there that doesn't sound a lot like solidifying and entrenching the powers that already exist. And it usually includes an ugly way of determining what speech is "political" and what is not. | | |
| ▲ | comfydragon 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Campaigns already have strong limits. The SC decided today that political parties can spend as much money as they want in coordination with candidates. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Congress may regulate, but why would they? They directly benefit from more money in politics One, they have. Repeatedly. Two, the reasons historically varied, but it tended to range from it being good for them when winning elections to most electeds being okay fundraisers and not wanting to compete with the great fundraisers. |
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| ▲ | Noumenon72 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be better to make the Constitution unamendable than to let people like you get their hands on it. People are just not smart enough to foresee the consequences of their choices, so it's better to stick with choices that at least worked once. |
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| ▲ | ncallaway 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The more sclerotic the Constitution becomes, the more likely it is to have the entire system overturned and replaced wholesale. If you try to make the Constitution unamendable, you guarantee that the Republic that is founded on the Constitution will eventually fail. I can't think of a worse idea for the long-term health of the Republic. | | |
| ▲ | moduspol 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If it were easy to change, there would be no purpose to having a Constitution. | | |
| ▲ | pasc1878 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There is a great difference between immutable and difficult to change. Do you want to be in a US without the Fourteenth Amendment? Actually it strictly immutable without any of the Amendments, no 1st, 2nd etc. |
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| ▲ | KaiserPro an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I mean yes, but the bigger issue is that the 14th amendment only survived by one fucking vote. The supreme court is one vote away from not upholding the constitution. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-] | | > the bigger issue is that the 14th amendment only survived by one fucking vote We have two corrupt justices. Until a President has the balls to enforce the law, this won’t be a problem solved by changing text on paper. |
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