> Don't ever let a Republican, and especially a Trump voter, complain about the current state of affairs.

Likewise: Don't ever let a Democrat complain about the current state of affairs. They chose to run shit candidates that couldn't even win against a fool like Trump.

They voted for this (in the primaries), and have been voting for this for at least a decade.

They have two choices: own it and admit to themselves that they don't actually care that much about avoiding "fascism," or vow to never, ever again to vote for Democrats who can't win a "red" [1] state for the rest of their lives.

[1] "Red" states are actually not that red. They only seem so "red" because the Democrats stopped trying to represent them.

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OutOfHere 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They literally don't have any good candidates because it takes one or more of these to be at the top:

1. Already having power

2. Extreme wealth

3. Extreme corruption

The system is broken, and the ones in power won't allow it to ever be fixed because it benefits them for it to stay broken.

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palmotea 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> They literally don't have any good candidates because it takes one of these to get to the top:

> 1. Extreme wealth

> 2. Extreme corruption

> 3. All of the above

OK. So which of those categories did Obama fall into?

I think yours is an over-cynical take that is in fact wrong.

> The system is broken, and the ones in power won't allow it to ever be fixed because it benefits them for it to stay broken.

The system is broken, but not in the way you describe. The partisan rank-and-file demand candidates that represent the partisan faithful, not an actual majority of the country [1]. They strongly prefer zealous evangelism fantasies and judgement over representation. It's stupid and foolish, and it's how we've gotten were were are. And a lot of Democrats have responded to Trump by getting worse, instead taking a reality check and snapping out of it.

[1] And I'm not talking about some milquetoast centrism.

	▲	OutOfHere 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's a hopeless party that serves only its leaders, not the party, and certainly not the country. The days of Obama are gone.