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modin 7 hours ago

> Wasn't there some talk about the pressing need for European digital sovereignty recently?

At FOSDEM, we discuss this at great length. There has been some movement, and I am optimistic that it is improving year on year.

Grikbdl 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm sorry but clearly the introduction of these apps with these requirements in the near past and near future represent regression over time rather than improvement.

I think it was last year that there was a good presentation from them about how they were going to use ZKP and it was indeed very trust inspiring. But do you think the latest digital wallet solution from eg Danish government uses ZKP? Of course not!

I have to say that the tune they play at FOSDEM and what we see put into production are just two different things.

modin 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I see your point about the disconnect between the rhetoric and what we actually see in production. Perhaps "regression" is a strong word, though, IMHO I tend to see it as a very slow and uneven evolution.

Even if the pace is frustrating, there are still pockets of genuine open-source adoption in the European public sector. For example, we're seeing projects like Germany's OpenDesk or various municipalities moving toward Nextcloud and other sovereign cloud solutions.

The EU Open Source Strategy[0] was announced just under a month ago and it specifically mentions the EU Digital Identity ecosystem, including the European Digital Identity Wallet (EUDI Wallet) mentioned in the article. I agree with OOP that the requirement of an Apple or Google phone goes against these ambitions, and I will contact my elected representatives.

[0]: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/open-sourc...

deaux 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

What he's correctly saying is that if even one major country adopts an EUID Wallet implementation that only allows for Google and Apple, this on its own has a magnitudes bigger impact than the pockets you're talking about. That's a regression.