| ▲ | hinata08 6 hours ago |
| To the defence of Sony : I was getting concerned, but if only StudioCanal movies are getting pulled as Sony doesn't need to pay for that, *it's but a loss* The company was bought by the same tycoon who bought mainstream media to get frequencies, then replaced journalists with conservative anchors who ditch the news and rant about feminists and Muslims all day. They were recently known for Bac Nord. It is honestly a very good cop movie, but that also outrageously rewrites a case in which dirty drug dealing cops were busted, in case some viewers are not willing to make the diff between reality and a good fiction They made the headline around the Cannes festival this year, saying they should no longer work with woke movies. Their case is getting embarrassing in France, as their owner is now the first (but not the only) purveyor of obscurantism for the masses |
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| ▲ | antx 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reasons? Whew! |
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| ▲ | MSFT_Edging 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Political reasons =/= actual bad actors. The person you're replying to made a case that a person with outsized influence is creating media to stir resentment for attention and your conclusion is "political reasons". The word "political" always ends up meaning "don't talk about reactionaries throwing rocks" | | |
| ▲ | antx 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | You're moving the goalpost. I get that many people view Vincent Bolloré as a bad guy. But him being a "far-right actor" or whatever that means doesn't excuse Sony's anti-consumer actions in the slightest, that's completely missing the point, and turning things political for no reason. And also a logical falacy. | | |
| ▲ | MSFT_Edging 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I wasn't defending the sony action, more defending the take you replied to. | |
| ▲ | hinata08 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It indeed looks like consumers felling deceived when they thought they purchased something is a possible liability. I'm sure the studio will watch the fallouts with amusement, waiting for them to come back However, dealing with that kind of free market big business loving buster is still a huge business risk that requires management and negotiations. I can get it if Sony limits their business risks at some point, even if the severance initially costs them. it would be so fun to be an insider to these negotiations |
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| ▲ | hinata08 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | this company is also a king when it comes to pulling rugs On their TV offering, in 2018 and 2022, they did pull the rug themselves by stopping to broadcast the free to air outlet which has #1 audience on the market, TF1, and this commercial dispute went to courts Long story short, it's big business (not just inde studio does politics) and they're notoriously anything but victims at it | | |
| ▲ | antx 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever StudioCanal is doing, does not ethically or logically absolve Sony of doing the same to its own customers. |
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| ▲ | Waterluvian 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You can stop selling a product without taking it away from previous buyers. |
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| ▲ | hinata08 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | it seems like it's not how the contract was written Also, on previous commercial disputes, these french studios and media outlets held an all or nothing stance, often asking to be completely removed from the offering of ISPs if they can't get the money they want. That's their way of getting what they want ; and as the ones who support this kind of move put it (so pretty much THEM) : you have the right to contract and do what you want with what you own It's embarrassing enough for Sony or ISPs, it's highly visible to consumers, so they will not accept a middle point like you describe. | | |
| ▲ | afandian 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Then Sony should have business insurance so they can refund all the customers. | |
| ▲ | bshacklett 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Then Sony should never have offered these assets for sale, because they never had the right to sell them! |
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| ▲ | okokwhatever 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| wtf dude? |
