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jqpabc123 14 hours ago

From a societal perspective, AI is a means to transfer wealth from employees to AI vendors.

Only 2 small problems:

1) Employees are slowly catching on to the scheme.

2) AI doesn't buy the products that AI produces.

Basically, AI is capitalism gone wild. The obvious antidote is socialism --- the forced sharing of the wealth that AI is intended to accumulate and concentrate.

cyanydeez 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

3) AI produces black swan events every n runs and eats up a significant portion of the gaina.

ahartmetz 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I wouldn't call them black swan events. LLM oopsies are a couple orders of magnitude more likely than black swan events.

jqpabc123 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reliability and competence (or the lack thereof) is a real issue but separate from the societal impact.

cyanydeez 12 hours ago | parent [-]

i dont think those thing are separate because people are using it to make critical decisions.

general1465 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> 2) AI doesn't buy the products that AI produces.

Yes, this is a point I am trying to get across so many times and people can't comprehend that if everyone automates employees away, then your customers will disappear because they won't have money to buy stuff, because they don't have wage, because they were automated out of their job. Now nobody can buy your goods or services, you are going bankrupt as well.

The AI in Sam Altman's vision is completely short-circuiting every aspect of capitalist economy.

watwut 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I think that they don't care. They wont go bankrupt. They will keep what they have, which is a lot already. A stagnant world with few rich who can do whatever and many poor does not bother them, it is the goal. They already got theirs.

jqpabc123 11 hours ago | parent [-]

They already got theirs.

Yes, but the system they're building is unsustainable. What they've got can be taken away. It's been done before.

bluefirebrand 11 hours ago | parent [-]

They don't believe it can be

They think they can hide far enough away, or hire enough muscle or eventually build autonomous drone defenses that don't rely on other people, to keep themselves safe

They might even be right

jqpabc123 10 hours ago | parent [-]

They don't believe it can be

Then they are truly naive.

Living in isolation is not really practical and not much fun even if it was.

bluefirebrand 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree, but what are you gonna do