Lumo 2.0

teekert 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm looking forward to an Agent. I have some customers who don't want US LLMs anywhere near there IP (code), but Lumo, being European and privacy focused, may convince them. Still would prefer local of course. I'm also eyeballing Vibe-cli (yes that is the actual honest to god name of Mistal's coding agent) as a "local" (as in EU) option.

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cheshire_cat 20 hours ago | parent [-]

What would a special Lumo agent bring to the table that you can't already get by using OpenCode with an European inference provider?

	▲	NuclearPM 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		A European. Not “an”.

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illright 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm glad that Lumo has image editing capabilities now, if it's half as good as ChatGPT, that means I no longer have to upload photos of my room to OpenAI to try a new paint color.

However, I trust Lumo only marginally more than ChatGPT, they really don't do themselves any favours by claiming it's all open-source when only the frontend is

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mark_l_watson 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like Lumo, glad to pay about $12/month for a private LLM with good conversation management.

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NinjaTrance 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Proton should be receiving billions in investments from European companies, just like Anthropic and OpenAI do.

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username135 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i have been underwhelmed with lumo so far. it feels a few iterations behind the current models. here's hoping its finally starting to catch up.

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Signez 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't be fooled by the fact they say it's "open" on that page: only their clients are open. The models themselves? Well, good luck with that...

https://osai-index.eu/news/lumo-proton-least-open/

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Chu4eeno 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So they used to be just reselling access to «"Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3". OpenHands is a QWEN fine-tune, and Nemo and Mistral Small are both Mistral models.»

But seems like they stripped this info from their Privacy Policy now?

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HelloUsername 18 hours ago | parent [-]

> But seems like they stripped this info from their Privacy Policy now?

> https://proton.me/support/lumo-privacy

"The models we’re using currently are Qwen 3.5, GLM 5.2, Image-Turbo, and FireRed-Image-Edit-1.1"

I'm not sure how old this page is, perhaps it's pre-Lumo 2.0

	▲	dazld 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		GLM 5.2 and Qwen 3.5 match the benchmark scores this article says their models get, so that is probably up to date.

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ampersandwhich 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow, if that is the Mark Dingemanse I think it is, he's an absolute legend in ideophone research. I used a lot of his work for my MA thesis. Always a pleasure to read.

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thiago_fm 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wish they'd be a bit more open source about this, bet people would contribute more.

Also about privacy-first apps.