| ▲ | Schiendelman 6 hours ago |
| Humanoid robots that can do manual labor are going to be make or break for wealthy economies in the next two decades. Aging populations need help, and most successful nations do not have enough young people to do half the work they need done. |
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| ▲ | HerbManic 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is the path that Japan tried to go down and it hasn't worked out yet, but we have also solved a lot more of the technical issues since they began. going to be interesting to see if we pull it off this time. |
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| ▲ | missedthecue 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Humanoid robots barely progressed between 2000-2020. There have obviously been incremental improvements in things like dexterity, vision, self-balancing, and locomotion, but in terms of having a useful humanoid robot, Honda's ASIMO released in the year 2000 is not crazily behind what we had in 2020. So it's not surprise we haven't seen economic dividends yet in the real world. I think AI is what could make humanoids turn from parlor tricks to huge amounts of utility, but we're really going to have to see how it plays out in the next 5-10 years. | |
| ▲ | Schiendelman 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think they mostly tried to go down this path before we had the transformer. With VLA models, or really now "Large Behavior Models", what's possible has changed dramatically. I've seen robot arms fold laundry now. Textile work is insanely hard, now it's just putting a lot of learned behavior together. | |
| ▲ | numpad0 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The current humanoid hype don't have much substances or key technologies in it, and incumbent industrial robotics companies like FANUC are already in the process of rolling the techniques created for humanoids into their robots. I personally think this is going to be just series of incremental gains for big welding bots, and nursery equipment becoming mildly robotic, like Aperture Science wall panels, than humanoids walking into retirement homes and doing dishes in the future. | |
| ▲ | bitwize 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sounds like "That's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for 'em." |
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| ▲ | Barrin92 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >Aging populations need help, They're pretty good at helping themselves. Close to where I used to live in Bavaria we had a pilot project of communal living for the elderly in a community of about a hundred people that included people with quite severe conditions such as dementia. Medical and care personell routinely checked in but they were largely self sufficient and did a remarkably job of taking care of themselves, maybe most importantly the were happy and quite dignified, something I cannot imagine is the case when your only contact is a humanoid robot. Of course in an age where every solution is yet another technology rethinking social life isn't very high up the list. |
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| ▲ | red75prime 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The "help" goes beyond taking care of themselves. What about food, clothing, infrastructure maintenance, and so on? An inverted population pyramid requires massive increase in the productivity of the economically active part of the population. | | |
| ▲ | mikem170 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Or a regression in the standard of living. Ideally to a comfortable sweet spot for people. |
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