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tumetab1 3 hours ago

I was try to understand the news/situation but after seeing the reference to Don Lemon I stop taking that article seriously.

He, who says is a journalist, incited a crime live on stream. Then pretended it didn't happened and he's not a journalist.

ipython 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

wow, I feel like the overton window hasn't just shifted, it's off the page. Back in the 90s we would openly share the Anarchist's Cookbook, CIA field manual for sabotage, etc. then lace our emails intentionally with "trigger words" when it was theorized that the NSA was reading all Internet traffic, so as to emphasize our free speech absolutism.

Now, an article comes out about sentences handed down for ... free speech ... and the reaction is to close the tab because they ... made some speech that you didn't like? Free speech for me, not for thee?

baublet 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

These free speech warriors didn’t actually care about free speech. They just wanted to be able to say horrible things without consequences.

platevoltage 2 hours ago | parent [-]

These people are actively hostile towards free speech. The fact that we let these people call themselves patriots is embarrassing.

OkayPhysicist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're talking about a different group of people. Back then, the only people who were online were relatively technical, which for whatever reason correlates with leaning libertarian (left or right). My theory is that the experience of identifying a solution to a problem, then being told it can't be implemented because someone with authority says "no" shakes one's belief in authority fundamentally.

Regardless, nowadays online, even in tech circles like this one, you have a much broader sample of the general population. In the case of HN, it's split more evenly than you'd expect from the general population between software developers, and tech entrepreneur types (or at least wannabes). The latter group is perfectly happy with oppressive power structures as long as they help them make money, and aspire to be the authority that says "no".

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goatlover an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Don Lemon did no such thing. He covered the event as is his right as a journalist.

strictnein 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't think you're well aware of what actually went on if you think this is what happened. Also, journalists don't have special rights. None of the rights in the constitution depend on you being employed by a particular type of entity. Unless you think a Fox News anchor has more rights than you do, for some reason?

You don't have a right to enter a private establishment as a journalist. You don't have a right to interrupt a religious ceremony under the banner of free speech. Don Lemon was up front, in the church, with his mic in the pastor's face, while the congregation was still there and the pastor had already asked them to leave.