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| ▲ | jerf 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I feel like you're kind of making this more complicated than it actually is, either because you're overcomplicating it or because you're trying to tee up some rhetorical point, but the answer to your question is really quite simple and objective: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=movie&rh=p_n_format_browse-bin%3A... You don't need to ask a hypothetical, the market has an answer. To the extent your reply is "but that's not exactly what my question is", my point is that the market is already pricing all sorts of situations and the market would have no problem pricing just one more possibility into the already complicated market. Including "piracy", and people like me who are treating the vast majority of DVDs and BluRays as just a delivery mechanism for streams rather than "discs". |
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| ▲ | madduci 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If I buy a DVD, it costs a fixed price. Why should it be variable, if we talk about digital media? Storage and content streaming is cheaper than embracing a whole logistic (producing DVDs/BlueRays, packaging, shipping). But here we are again: if you buy something digital, you just pay for a "usage license", you don't own anything at all. After all these years or decades, I am still surprised that people expect to own digital content, forever |
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| ▲ | basisword 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | With digital you're hoping the 'store' keeps it in storage for you in perpetuity so you can redownload/stream it. If you buy a DVD and lose it you can't go back for another free copy. There's definitely an issue that the original license should allow you to always download and backup your copy DRM free so you will always have access but most people aren't going to do that. I bought lots of music/video content from iTunes over the years and rarely back it up. The fact I can just stream it/redownload it from them is very useful but it's also unreasonable for me to expect that Apple should be hosting my 99¢ purchase for the rest of time. | | |
| ▲ | triceratops an hour ago | parent [-] | | > With digital you're hoping the 'store' keeps it in storage for you in perpetuity so you can redownload/stream it. Not necessarily. What if the store didn't have to do that? |
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| ▲ | ksec an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| On a similar scale, if I am paying 35% more for the plus on music, I expect the same for movies around $15 or up to $18. |
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| ▲ | dfxm12 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Terminator 2 is currently $8 for a bluray on amazon. $10 for a DVD. This is reasonably a forever version. |
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| ▲ | dingaling an hour ago | parent [-] | | DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc. | | |
| ▲ | ahtihn 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc Wait what? How? How is that possibly legal? | | |
| ▲ | kevin_thibedeau 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Key revocation applies to releases published after the revocation date. Old media should continue playing with a compromised device key. | | |
| ▲ | ahtihn 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That wasn't what was implied then. If old media continues playing then it's still "forever". |
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| ▲ | gsich 29 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | This was planned for DVDs too, but they failed miserably. In any other case: use MakeMKV |
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| ▲ | dfxm12 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ok, how long do you have to rip & copy the content as you desire? It is still reasonably a forever version. Before you bring up laws around keys, first consider that jaywalking in front of your house is illegal too. Again, it is reasonably a forever version. | | |
| ▲ | iainmerrick an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | jaywalking in front of your house is illegal In most parts of the world it’s not illegal. That’s a seriously draconian law. | |
| ▲ | Schiendelman 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Crossing the street in a residential neighborhood is legal in almost all of the world and increasingly legal in the US as well. Many major cities started with non-enforcement and some are rolling back jaywalking laws entirely. | |
| ▲ | lstodd an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why even bother with all those hoops. Just download. | | |
| ▲ | dfxm12 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Oh, I was adding a pertinent point of discussion in a discussion board. It is fun. I suggest you try it. | | |
| ▲ | nekusar 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Snarky shit aside... Why should I pay to be treated as a criminal, when pirating is better in every way and costs nothing? There is no option of "Pay for digital copy of show that permits format/time shifting and backup for as long as I want, with no DRM". Like GOG. Doesn't exist in the pay realm. | | |
| ▲ | dfxm12 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It seems like you're just adding more and more qualifiers until you can finally justify piracy to yourself. You can reasonably do what you want if you buy the disc. There's a good chance that's how the people you're downloading from did it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| ▲ | lstodd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I would pay zero. I would just use torrents. |
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| ▲ | nekusar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Right now, I won't pay a fucking cent. I'll pirate it off of Usenet or Torrents. I get a strictly better experience if I pirate. Whereas I'm treated like a criminal and sold a much worse experience if I pay. So, fuck paying. I'm not going to pay for abuse. |
