| ▲ | redwall_hp 6 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's news to me that they weren't already. My exams were all in person and on paper in the early 2020s, and even my physics homework was a "do it on engineering paper and drop it in a mail slot" affair. The professors would forbid computers and phones during lectures and would stop to shame anyone who thought they were being sneaky. Computer Science classes were all on paper for exams, and low level ones did the old "here's a Javadoc, write some code with a pencil." The only online exams I had were for 100 level electives. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> It's news to me that they weren't already. It’s an old (and outdated IMO) tradition at some Ivy Leagues, as the article notes. It may have worked in the era when students had a little more fear of repercussions and a little more sense that cheating on a test would only cause them problems when courses got harder later. Now it seems there is little interest in dealing with cheating, as evidenced by how hard it was for this professor to even get attention to the matter within his department. Students also don’t believe cheating will cause them future harm because they assume they can cheat everything up through graduation the same way. When the rug gets pulled and they have to demonstrate their knowledge in person without ChatGPT, the cheaters collapse. I fear that we’re delaying this reckoning so deep into academic careers now that by the time these students encounter the point where they can’t cheat their way to completion of a course they’re in for a world of hurt, if they continue at all. We really should be coming down hard on cheating earlier and more often. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | markus_zhang 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
IMO many CS classes should be lab based already, except the theory heavy ones. I still wonder why MIT needs to test students of OS courses on paper when the labs cover a lot of the ground. If I can do well in the labs I wouldn’t bother to memorize stuffs for the exams. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | s0rce 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mine were like this is 2005. The math classes also didn't allow calculators, engineering classes did, but not graphing ones that could store information. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bee_rider 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think “take home open book exam, good luck,” followed by evil laughter, is mostly a math department thing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | consensus1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Writing code like that just seems like such a poor test of actual ability. More like just a rote memorization test. On the other hand I can't think of a better way to do it fairly now. I think it speaks to the obsolescence of the educational model more than anything. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||