There are limits to what you can assess on timed assessments, and there are students whose performance on such assessments is not a good signal of their intellectual ability.

In addition, at many institutions such tests are given infrequently and can be worth a significant component of a student's overall grade, increasing both student stress levels and the tendency for such assessments to measure short term knowledge students have obtained by cramming, not more meaningful longer-term knowledge gains.

I see you're giving quizzes every three weeks, which is better than twice a semester, but still not what I would consider an ideal cadence. In my course weekly computer-based quizzes comprise 70% of a student's grade, but that's supported by a significant institutional investment in high-frequency computer-based testing: https://cbtf.illinois.edu/.

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rfergie 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> there are students whose performance on such assessments is not a good signal of their intellectual ability

Is there a form of assessment that is a good signal of the intellectual ability of all students?

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warumdarum 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fruit of labor? Good students of science produce novel science..as in testable ideas without precedent.. a thing llms struggle with, as they at best can interpolate and mash up previous ideas

	▲	hansvm 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Many good students don't produce such artifacts. That's one of the big problems in academia -- a smart person with good ideas can inadvertently pursue a less promising path and not produce ground-breaking research, so how do you tease that apart from somebody scamming the system? The current approach is to measure unrelated bullshit like citation metrics. I'd hate to see those sorts of perverse incentives pushed down into the student body as well.

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recursivedoubts 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree and would like to move towards a customized computer setup like you mention. A friend at Berkeley manages a similar setup. Unfortunately Montana State is too small to have set one up yet.

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sourcecodeplz 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

so let say you give the students a pop-quiz. is that not acceptable anymore because some students don't do well when surprised?

	▲	mlloyd 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Acceptable is different from being an accurate assessment of knowledge. The question is what is the teacher attempting to measure?