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fhn 11 hours ago

the professor has all the power in the classroom. If you don't want cheating, define better conditions for the exam. You allowed a take-home exam which means students are able to use any and all resources.

rsfern 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> You allowed a take-home exam which means students are able to use any and all resources.

It was a closed-book exam. The professor shouldn’t have to hold students’ hands for them to act with integrity, they are all adults.

In this particular class, the professor made the final exam in-person, and didn’t count the take-home midterm because the score distribution wasn’t consistent between the two exams. I think that’s a reasonable approach, but it’s kind of sad that it was necessary

revolvingthrow 9 hours ago | parent [-]

When the highest offices of the land are packed to the gills with liars and grifters and anyone with a brain can observe there’s no downside to such behavior, "just be honest" rings rather hollow

rsfern 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe I have too optimistic a mindset, but “just be honest” in academia isn’t about being a rule-follower, it’s about not short-changing yourself by coasting though on autopilot instead of learning to think and solve problems for yourself.

Whether that really matters if your goal is to climb the social ladder and have power and influence, I don’t know.

profmonocle 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Replace "climb the social ladder and have power and influence" with "be able to afford a home, have kids, and go on vacation occasionally."

It's become very difficult to have even a middle class lifestyle without a college degree. Obviously a huge percentage of people there don't want to be.

vlod 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This comment irked me. Yes others do it.

I've noticed more and more that people lie to me and I call them out immediately (aggressively, as if they've just spat in my face) and they just don't care.

Does "my word is my bond" not have meaning any more?

bigstrat2003 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really. I'm not responsible for how others behave; I'm responsible for how I behave. I don't like the rampant immoral behavior in society any more than you, but I still hold myself to a higher standard of behavior and others should too.

carljungslabtek 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The thought of a closed book take home exam really made me laugh. They also mentioned Princeton hasn’t had professors in the room for exams since the 1890s… They just have a code of honor and rely on other students to report cheaters??

Ivy league is such a scam, in so many different ways.

jimbooonooo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

how is expecting integrity a scam?