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goatlover 3 hours ago

Imagine representatives who did what voters actually wanted. There's probably a name for that. Representative democracy or something. As opposed to corporate representation.

microgpt an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I misread "corporate democratism" and I like that - democratism is to democracy what scientism is to science - democratism is something that has the superficial appearance of democracy but isn't democracy because it doesn't achieve outcomes based on a consensus of voters.

thechao 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is why gerrymandering should be unconstitutional, and why corporations should have their rights explicitly curtailed: they're not citizens or the people.

lesuorac 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm really unconvinced gerrymandering is the issue here.

It's not like Red cities have flock cameras and Blue cities don't.

It's really just that the Fairness Doctrine [1] needed to apply to more than radio. If you can constantly just repeat your point and then deny an opposition time then of course you'll get your point through.

Although maybe if super-pacs got outlawed then the Equal-time rule [2] would suffice.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

thechao 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Races are virtually uncompetitive; it means politicians only need to pander to the 40% bloc of the 10–20% of voters that show up in the primary. Once elected, the chance of losing their office is nearly 0. Gerrymandering absolutely reduces effective voting power. That's the whole point.

infecto 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Imagine what I really meant was that in those areas people largely approve of these cameras and it’s the minority that don’t.

Now of course your narrative is rude and more entertaining but sadly far from the mark. Saying “that’s not what I paid for” is all fine and dandy but it’s cuts both ways.

kennywinker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> in those areas people largely approve of these cameras

How sure of that are you? I’m thinking it’s mostly a mix of indifference and ignorance. Has anywhere you know of voted specifically on these cameras?

infecto 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

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goatlover an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Alright, but in those areas did the politicians run on having those cameras installed everywhere? Were the voters given a proposition to approve?

Data centers seem to be widely unpopular on both the left and right, so I'm wonder where the representative democracy comes into play. More often than not local politicians approve these projects despite there being majority opposition from the public.

infecto 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

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