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9dev 3 hours ago

Are you kidding me..? The freedom of movement across all member states, including the right to settle and start a business anywhere you like, that's not a "good regulation" to you? Being able to pay in all of those states without paying FX rates, bringing home your purchases across the border without tolls or even checkpoints no less? The funding of a massive amount of public benefit projects in poorer member states, including art and artists, public health and education, infrastructure - all of that isn't worth anything? The ability to trust everything you buy to be safe, from child toys to food to cars? This list goes on for a long time.

Many politicians have used the EU as a convenient scapegoat for inconvenient decisions, and people like you continue to spread completely uninformed FUD.

Let's even put aside all the benefits you have but apparently either don't know or don't care about. How well do you think your home country would fare against the USA or China or Russia on its own? The only weapon all of us have against the big power blocks of the world is being a power block on our own.

The EU isn't perfect, and I'm absolutely opposed to the Chat Control bullshit in its entirety, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

consensus1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think he is saying all those beneficial things could be done by multilateral agreements without the need for the additional layer of EU organization and bureaucracy. In fact some of them already have been done that way.

9dev 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you wanted to come up with individual multilateral agreements to cover even a fraction of what the EU does for its member states, you'd reinvent it in one form or another.

I don't mean this personally, but it appears as though many commenters here have absolutely no clue of how the EU works, what its governing bodies do, and how member states profit off of that.

logicchains 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>The freedom of movement across all member states, including the right to settle and start a business anywhere you like, that's not a "good regulation" to you

That's not regulation, that's a reduction in regulation.

9dev 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s a reduction in prohibitions, not regulation. You cannot enable this without regulating how it works.