Totally legal.

The operating theory of all of these cameras is that anything happening in public sight is by its nature not private. The federal government is dumping millions and millions of dollars into grant programs for municipalities to buy it… It’s a giant federal surveillance program disguised as decisions made by individual police departments.

It’s hilarious and depressing to contrast the HN community reaction to Snowden versus the mostly meh response to flock.

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pixl97 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The last 20 years has burned privacy into the ground for a large part of the population.

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Manuel_D 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The plain view doctrine dates back to the 70s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_view_doctrine

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ButlerianJihad 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	cucumber3732842 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There's this insidious tendency among HNers to make this argument and ones like it. Yeah, if you live in a tiny medieval village or a small town in the middle of nowhere in 1980 there was little "privacy" but Jeffrey Dahmer was fucking dudes (back when that wasn't ok) and eating people in his apartment for years before anyone caught on. In more suburban settings there truly was privacy to a large practical extent. Furthermore, these argument lie through their teeth to portray privacy from those who you mostly voluntarily associate, vs privacy from government systems that can seek you out, have power over you and can fairly unilaterally screw you with little recourse and you cannot choose not to associate with. Having people not associate with you in 1980, or 1280, because you did something sly or immoral is fundamentally different from being combed over by the government because you hit some unknowable proprietary criteria that triggered them to go over you with a fine tooth comb.

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bertt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're mistaken if you think the community is still the same percentage of humans.

	▲	Spooky23 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That’s a fair point that I didn’t consider, thank you.

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infecto 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What meh response? There has been a continued and very vocal response against flock here.

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Spooky23 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you pointed out any of the many problematic aspects of Snowden in those days, you’d be shouted down and voted into oblivion immediately.

	▲	mixmastamyk an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Good, because nothing “problematic” about an individual matters one bit when presented with nefarious government activities. It’s obvious distraction technique 101.