It’s hard to distil to a single comment but I think it might be a poor example given the NYPD takes about double the budget per capita to be less safe than Toronto.

I think the only objective conclusion we can come to in a comments section is that going by “I visited there” vibes isn’t going to be useful.

What about the high murder rate and meth problems of middle America, lets talk about that more instead of the “oh no homeless people” rhetoric all the time.